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The admins on lemmynsfw.com have decided to allow "non-IRL loli", i.e. drawn porn involving children/teenagers. (Post: https://lemmynsfw.com/post/29633).

Irrelevant of the moral issues that this poses, such content is illegal in many countries (e.g the UK). Continuing to federate with lemmynsfw.com will put users at risk of significant legal repercussions.

Please would the admins consider defederating unless lemmynsfw change their policy.

UPDATE: The lemmynsfw admins posted an clarification here: https://lemmynsfw.com/post/29826. My original argument for defederating doesn't stand any more.

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[โ€“] Adubya@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As a federation shouldn't we start with Diplomacy? This is a prime example. We didn't wait long enough, and it was clarified rather quickly.

Defederation should require more deliberation and unless an immediate emergency shouldn't there be other actions under consideration first.

[โ€“] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

2 weeks ago: Lemmy is so amazing, create an account anywhere and you can access everything! It's like forums but better!

Now: defederate >:(

Ugh. I get the concern in scenarios like this, but in the last couple of days every instance has calls to defederate from this or that. Eventually it's just gonna be small islands of "very compatible" instances.

Well, guess it's back to making separate accounts for everything!

[โ€“] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Defederation leads to echo chambers. I've certainly had enough of that in Reddit!

[โ€“] ruud@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If any illegal content would be posted there, let us know. If it's 1 community, we can block the community. If it's all over the place, we can defederate. But I see defederation as a last resort. If there are other ways to keep our server safe I prefer that.

[โ€“] MalachiAzrael@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They did post an update about it

Looks like its less about blatant loli/shota content and more about "characters who are petite/young-looking but not obviously underage"

How and if that changes anyones feelings about it is up to them.

[โ€“] positiveWHAT@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I don't care about drawings, there are no victims, but if it's illegal by law it poses a problem.

[โ€“] purahna@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"characters who are petite/young-looking but not obviously underage"

yeah of course they're not gonna come out and say "yeah we want to host and share drawn CSAM" and they're going to be weasely and sneaky about it, do you really plan to take pedophiles and pedophile enablers at the honor of their word here