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cross-posted from: https://feddit.nl/post/16246531

I feel like we need to talk about Lemmy's massive tankie censorship problem. A lot of popular lemmy communities are hosted on lemmy.ml. It's been well known for a while that the admins/mods of that instance have, let's say, rather extremist and onesided political views. In short, they're what's colloquially referred to as tankies. This wouldn't be much of an issue if they didn't regularly abuse their admin/mod status to censor and silence people who dissent with their political beliefs and for example, post things critical of China, Russia, the USSR, socialism, ...

As an example, there was a thread today about the anniversary of the Tiananmen Massacre. When I was reading it, there were mostly posts critical of China in the thread and some whataboutist/denialist replies critical of the USA and the west. In terms of votes, the posts critical of China were definitely getting the most support.

I posted a comment in this thread linking to "https://archive.ph/2020.07.12-074312/https://imgur.com/a/AIIbbPs" (WARNING: graphical content), which describes aspects of the atrocities that aren't widely known even in the West, and supporting evidence. My comment was promptly removed for violating the "Be nice and civil" rule. When I looked back at the thread, I noticed that all posts critical of China had been removed while the whataboutist and denialist comments were left in place.

This is what the modlog of the instance looks like:

Definitely a trend there wouldn't you say?

When I called them out on their one sided censorship, with a screenshot of the modlog above, I promptly received a community ban on all communities on lemmy.ml that I had ever participated in.

Proof:

So many of you will now probably think something like: "So what, it's the fediverse, you can use another instance."

The problem with this reasoning is that many of the popular communities are actually on lemmy.ml, and they're not so easy to replace. I mean, in terms of content and engagement lemmy is already a pretty small place as it is. So it's rather pointless sitting for example in /c/linux@some.random.other.instance.world where there's nobody to discuss anything with.

I'm not sure if there's a solution here, but I'd like to urge people to avoid lemmy.ml hosted communities in favor of communities on more reasonable instances.

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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

If all you want to see are opinions and memes that fit within the political confines of the New York Times, then .ml probably isn't for you. Lemmy.world has taken a very brave (and rare!) stance of being a champion of neoliberal politics. The mods and users here will do everything they can to make sure you aren't exposed to any political philosophy to the left of Henry Kissinger.

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[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I knew it was bloody and thousands had been slaughtered, but I'm so surprised they fought back. I never learned they actually had the chance to. So many survivors and observers too. That's reassuring.

It means that the Chinese know their government is not omnipotent. That's why all legal communication is unencrypted and monitored. If citizens were allowed to communicate as they do in the West, they'd be able to organize and overthrow the CCP.

That's what they are afraid of. The people aren't afraid of the mechanized power the PLA has, and as demonstrated in 1989, the power is in numbers. If the CCP doesn't wipe out all memory of Tiannemen Square, they are doomed. But the CCP can't. Unless they cut China off from the rest of the world entirely, the knowledge will remain. The CCP can only get stricter and harsher, speeding up the time for a pressure cooker to explode. They know this. The people know this.

At some point in the future, they will go too far, and the people will end it.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online -2 points 2 weeks ago

Just like the USA's experiment with far-right ideology, and also just like the COVID pandemic - knowledge that it will eventually implode seems not to matter one bit.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

I just don't understand why people like OP even left Reddit.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 weeks ago

It's why I try to get more people to read theory, the people leaving Reddit usually are the types who care enough to keep up with current events and willful enough to abandon Reddit over ideals, but generally haven't yet read leftist theory.

To be clear, many people do read theory, they just aren't the same people trying to recreate Reddit.

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[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com -5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Had a special experience, too.

I got blocked for arguing. Other people who he posted burning Israel flags or wanted the total destruction of Israel had nothing to fear...

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[–] bunitor@lemmy.eco.br -5 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

the software was created by marxist-leninists. maybe deal with it?

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