But like seriously India needs to stop fucking around. Russia does this sort of shit. Don’t be like Russia.
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As long as India keeps electing fascists, I wouldn't expect much.
They should be happy that India didn't assassinate a US citizen first. Now all the dirty laundry can come out, Canada gets the blame, and India can be told to knock it off while the US gets to play middleman.
It kinda reminds me of when Saudi Arabia killed the Washington Post writer. Trump blew it off and Biden basically continued the Trump foreign policy.
Seems like normally consequences for acts at the global level are more based on geopolitical considerations than moral considerations. I could imagine if India assassinated a US citizen the intelligence would have just been buried and nobody would have ever heard about it so the US could contribute building up the India relationship to use against China.
Seems like normally consequences for acts at the global level are more based on geopolitical considerations than moral considerations. I could imagine if India assassinated a US citizen the intelligence would have just been buried and nobody would have ever heard about it so the US could contribute building up the India relationship to use against China.
Which I've always had trouble with, because if you know that someone is immoral, then why are you trusting that they're going to care about your relationship with them?
if you know that someone is immortal, then why are you trusting that they’re going to care about your relationship with them?
You meant immoral, didn't you?
Good question both ways.
There can be only one.
Because like everything relationships are temporary from both sides. US will turn on India at a heartbeat if it can get Pakistan out from the clutches of china. It is easier to control Pakistan since it is a real fascist government. US has experience in controlling fascists.
In your example neither Pakistan or India are on America's side, so it's not reasonable to expect loyalty. Now consider this, what would make America turn on another western democracy like the UK, France, Australia or Canada. It would take a lot.
Can you with all that is known tell with 100% conviction that US has not spied on and carried out extra judicial action against any other western democracy.
Honestly I could see this being a strategy a country might try (in fact I'm sure that the US and USSR probably tried stuff like this during the Cold War). Break up partners by sowing distrust. China doesn't have to win, they just have to make sure we lose.
This might just be an ploy by US to make sure that India toes its line in condemning Russia, which it should do inspite of everything else, and stop buying Russian oil. Canada is being made a scapegoat in this without getting its own hand dirty.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Biden administration is nervously watching a dispute between Canada and India, with some officials concerned it could upend the U.S. strategy toward the Indo-Pacific that is directed at blunting China’s influence there and elsewhere.
Publicly, the administration has maintained that Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s allegations that the Indian government may have been involved in the killing of a Sikh separatist near Vancouver are a matter between the two countries.
And they are worried that Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi may be adopting tactics to silence opposition figures on foreign soil akin to those used by Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia and North Korea, all of which have faced similar accusations.
Perhaps of more concern, though, is that the Canada-India dispute could have major implications for one of the administration’s main foreign policy priorities: the Indo-Pacific strategy, which seeks to counter China’s increasing assertiveness in the region, according to numerous U.S. officials who spoke on condition of anonymity due to the extreme sensitivity of the matter.
To that end it has boosted its diplomatic efforts in the Indo-Pacific, including by creating a leaders group that brings together Australia, Japan, India and the United States.
The fear — albeit a worst-case scenario envisioned by U.S. policymakers — is that the dispute will escalate in the same way that Britain’s row with Russia did over the poisoning of former Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter in Salisbury, England, in 2018.
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