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[–] tal 22 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

https://www.opensanctions.org/entities/NK-WmPwTyvMsgzeazp4iHG6Rw/

Federal State Enterprise Perm Powder Plant produces crucial components for the Grad, Topol-M, Bulava, Kornet, Pantsir-S and Tornado systems, which are used in Ukraine.

Frankly, given that you work around a lot of explosives and Ukraine has hit munitions plants recently, I'm not sure that having long shifts and no days off is the worst thing that could be happening.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

they are protected by geography

iirc somewhere in the city there is a factory that for some time was the only manufacturer of RDX in entire russia, and under direct control of FSB. it could be the same plant, but i'm not sure about it

another juicy target nearby is Motovilikha plant

[–] tal 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

they are protected by geography

Lot of places in Russia have been until they weren't.

It sounds like this plant may have been accessible in this conflict even prior to long-range airstrikes getting longer range.

https://www.newsweek.com/multiple-dead-after-mysterious-explosion-russian-ammunition-plant-1702608

Multiple Dead After Mysterious Explosion at Russian Ammunition Plant

Published May 02, 2022 at 12:05 PM EDT

Amid the country's ongoing military conflict in Ukraine, an ammunition plant near the Ural Mountains in Russia suffered a massive explosion which resulted in fatalities.

The FKP Perm Powder Plant, which produces gunpowder and is located in the city of Perm, reportedly endured an explosion at approximately 8 p.m. local time, according to local authorities. The resulting fire eventually killed two workers and injured others. The incident has so far been pinned on "a product" that "caught fire."

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 weeks ago

they are protected by geography in that sense that any long range attack is a bespoke affair, uses rare and costly weapons and requires coordination of many assets. considering its value it could be expected that there are some GBAD nearby, and long distance makes it more likely for drones to be shot down by russian jets, like it's done more commonly in western doctrine. i think it's probable that long range strikes are only conducted when ukrainians have intelligence about weakened air defences

[–] eggymachus@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

On the other hand, it increases the chance you're around when the worst thing inevitably happens.

[–] tal 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

inevitably

So, I have no idea what's going on there, but Russia can theoretically try to keep extremely lean inventory on-site, like, move out a truck-load as soon as it's completed, and isolate what on-site storage exists, minimize impact of the thing going off.

Obviously, that hasn't been successfully done in the past with depots that Ukraine hit, and I'm sure that it adds inefficiencies, but it's at least theoretically possible.

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

They obviously don't know what happened to the platoon that appealed to higher authorities to help them out of their miserable situation.