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I would say to that person that voting could matter if we passed state level electoral reform. Give them something real and tangible to pursue instead of wasting time and thought on a topic that has no solution.

[โ€“] socialpankakemix@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

if voting made no difference, then why do they try their hardest to prevent poor people and minorities from voting?

[โ€“] Carighan@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Exactly this.

Indifference is how you know something doesn't matter. I remember this lesson even from game development: People complaining about your game is still alright. When the feedback stops entirely, that's when you fucked up.

[โ€“] Taalnazi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What if the feedback stops, but the playrate remains high? (ie., indifference but high voter turnout)

[โ€“] Carighan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Difficult to say as that's really not a common case at all. Might just lack evidence for how to understand this.

[โ€“] eldavi@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

i think it's misguided because voting can have an impact; but doesn't since that's the extent of civic engagement for an overwhelming majority of americans which leads to manipulate-able voters who have to use their emotions to decide on things that they know nothing about.

It mostly makes sense. There are infamous examples of voting being de jure or de facto illegal for groups of people where their suffrage would likely cause significant change. Just look at the USA pre-Civil Rights Act, Rhodesia, Apartheid South Africa, and Israel. I'm sure there are others.

It makes perfect sense coming from you.

If voting wasnโ€™t important than republicans wouldnโ€™t make it so hard to do.

[โ€“] Carighan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Pretty obviously false, and I'd genuinely question the social and intellectual capabilities of anybody who truly believes this - originally sarcastic - phrase.

[โ€“] pancake@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 week ago

False in theory, true in practice. It is rare for the political landscape and a majority vote to align in such a way that it really has a disruptive effect. And in those instances wherein it happened, wasn't uncommon to see a coup afterwards.

[โ€“] XTL@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

That posting it now is trumputinist propaganda.