this post was submitted on 11 Nov 2024
348 points (98.3% liked)

Games

32579 readers
2324 users here now

Welcome to the largest gaming community on Lemmy! Discussion for all kinds of games. Video games, tabletop games, card games etc.

Weekly Threads:

What Are You Playing?

The Weekly Discussion Topic

Rules:

  1. Submissions have to be related to games

  2. No bigotry or harassment, be civil

  3. No excessive self-promotion

  4. Stay on-topic; no memes, funny videos, giveaways, reposts, or low-effort posts

  5. Mark Spoilers and NSFW

  6. No linking to piracy

More information about the community rules can be found here.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

I doubt anything comes of it, but here's hoping.

top 36 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] exu@feditown.com 149 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If you're an EU citizen, please take the time to sign this citizen initiative to stop killing games. It could be our best chance of preventing such situations in the future.

https://www.stopkillinggames.com/

[–] whithom@discuss.online 100 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If they release something with paid content, I should get to have that paid content forever, or get a refund. 🤷‍♂️

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 30 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Cries in MMOs from 20 years ago.

[–] Brumefey@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Last week I downloaded Dark Age of Camelot which I have not played nor paid for 20 years, and my character was still there. I was really not expecting them to keep the data for so long without any payment.

[–] Starbuncle@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I understand why most companies wouldn't do that, but they should be forced to open-source online games that get shut down or otherwise made non-functional.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

At minimum they should provide copies of the software to anyone who paid a subscription, and then enterprising individuals would figure out how to get private servers running

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 54 points 6 days ago (3 children)

If you buy a game, which you cannot use in single player mode, without internet access, you are signing up for this happening to you too, one day, guaranteed.

[–] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

I mean, that's basically all AAA games in 2024. Even songs PC ports which historically avoided DRM and network requirements is starting to mandate PSN accounts. I 100% would prefer to be able to play offline, more often than not it's unwanted telemetry or BS bloat but that isn't something we as users can enforce.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

"You're gonna hate the way it feels. I guarantee it."

[–] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

At this point I'm afraid only government intervention would help (with citizens asking it to do so)

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Buddy......government doesn't give a shit about video games. They got wars to start. People to exploit.

[–] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I think the department that protects consumers isn't busy with wars

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Ok......4 hours of sleep a night is officially not enough. I've been awake for about 2 hours now, and read that as

Grandma sued for shutting down her crew.

[–] DesolateMood@lemm.ee 13 points 6 days ago

Username checks out

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 9 points 5 days ago

Granny ain't fuckin around

[–] DarkDiamondK@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Close enough

[–] Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago

Reindeer begin keeping tabs on her whereabouts in response.

[–] vikingtons@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Out of curiosity, did anyone sue bungie for doing the same thing with destiny's Y1 & Y2 content?

I was one of those dumb bastards who bought the game and DLC back in 2017

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago

It gets to be way harder to argue in court when it isn't a "clean kill", using Ross Scott's words, so The Crew is going to be one of the best examples we'll ever get for courts to rule on. I expect Ubisoft would rather settle than let this one go that far though.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I imagine a lawsuit would likely bring up the topic of how hard it would be for a developer to keep the game around past purchase.

For instance, imagine a massively multiplayer online game; everyone playing the game is acutely aware of how much server hardware is needed to maintain that online presence, and it's unrealistic to assume it would exist forever.

That's probably why attention was pushed onto The Crew. It's a racing game that shouldn't need much from a server, so it's arguably unfair to tie it to that access and take it offline.

[–] cbarrick@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

it's unrealistic to assume it would exist forever.

Older multiplayer games would let you self-host the server, long before the current trend.

Ubisoft doesn't have to continue to host servers. They just have to release the server code. Zero cost to them.

[–] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

zero cost to them

I would imagine it would reveal how sh*tty the ubisoft code bases are and has a reputation cost XD. But if it's that big of a risk then they should keep the servers running indefinitely.

[–] cbarrick@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

I mean, they don't have to release the source code. A compiled version would be fine.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Pirates have managed to run servers for tons of MMOs. The only thing stopping people from running servers themselves is that they're not made available.

[–] Starbuncle@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago

That's why companies shutting down online games need to be compelled to open-source or at least provide binaries for their servers.

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Don't get it wrong, the reason The Crew was the perfect game to start the movement is solely because Ubisoft is french, a country that has pretty strong consumer laws that they aren't respecting.

[–] ChonkaLoo@lemmy.zip 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Only fair I hope it'll cost them a lot.

[–] cbarrick@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago
[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Like Ross said, since they are suing in the USA better to not get your hopes up.

[–] punseye@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago
[–] NOOBMASTER@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

fuck yeah here we go