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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 3 points 12 hours ago

Its the working class vs the 1%, not generation vs generation.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

The zoomers are more like boomers than any other generation. The thought that they would save anyone but themselves is ridiculous.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry to break it to ya Slate (libs), Trump barely got more 18-24 votes this time than he did last time, whereas a lot of young people just didn't show up for Harris. Everybody knew young people were upset by the genocide, they said they couldn't vote for Harris because of her policies and surprisingly no matter how much Dem party dorks tried to shame them they didn't show up, just like they said they wouldn't. And now everyone is like "gen z is maga" get a grip

[–] Kayday@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

The sad part is I don't think most gen z voters who withheld their vote for Kamala fully appreciated what a 2nd Trump term meant, but here we are.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

No, Gen Z just isn’t conservative enough to settle for Dems. Put up a progressive, and they’ll show up.

[–] MonkRome@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

doubt it will work as well as you think

Whatever the Dems do, even if it move their platform to the furthest left in the known universe most moral puritans on the left will just lable them mainstream, or corpo shills and find a reason to stay home. Regardless of policy position or idea, the far left has always moved the goalposts between each election cycle just out of reach of the main stream.

When they refused to vote for Gore because of climate change the party moved to the left to meet those voters, and the left said fuck off. When they moved to left to get voters that refused Hillary because of corporate speaking gigs the party moved further left on corporate accountability, and the left said fuck off. When Biden moved left during his term to protect the environment, hold predatory schools and lending servicers accountable, attempted loan forgiveness, expanded overtime guarantees, etc etc etc. the left said fuck off to his predecessor. The people who claim the left will just show up if you give them x are big fat liars. Their perceived moral purity will always be more valuable to them than progress and action.

And I say this as someone that is further to the left than the party. I am also profoundly disappointed in the parties lack of moral courage. I just believe in practical progress and action, something most self righteous moral puritans absolutely don't believe in.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 10 points 20 hours ago

If we were able to age out of authoritarian conservatism, it would have happened a long time ago. Possibly as far back as "cooking food over fire is making kids these days weak". That should never have been a strategy. Doubly so when there's a time limit to solve global warming.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Liberals solve the problems that cause voters to die. Conservatives push for the status quo, even if the status quo kills the voters. The more deaths, the more people move towards the liberals. What, right now, is killing Gen Z?

Gen Z males have been raised in this "men need to be the alpha dog - don't let anyone talk down to you - don't respect anyone" mindset throughout high school. Then, when they get out into the real world, that mindset lead them to flunk out of college, not hold down a job, and not be able to get/keep a girlfriend. With no education/money/girlfriend's house and housing prices through the roof, they have to move back in with there parents who:

A) Are liberal and thus blame it on there attitude, which makes them even more conservative

B) Are conservative and blame it on trans-mexican-CRT-cowfarts, which makes them bond more with their parents.

How do we fix this?

[–] nwtreeoctopus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 13 hours ago

For many, it would be making them more community-minded and responsible as younger kids. The combo of rarely being held accountable for mistakes or failure to meet expectations (basically, gentle parenting) and a social education from algorithmically curated content feels like it's been a major factor in developing their social/political attitudes.

[–] transMexicanCRTcowfart@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Just replying to thank you for that glorious combo of terms. As the dirty migrant I am, I simply had to steal it for my username.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago
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