One of my biggest issues with the ads is that they're mostly scams. I just get ads for shit I know isn't real
this post was submitted on 14 Nov 2024
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u/Dangerous-Pizza7054 from the article,
Seems like the user tracking "special promotion" overrides the premium. They don't even say whether it's expected or not. But my take away is that paying for premium may or may not show you ads, but you are definitely tracked and harvested for data. (Maybe even more so, since, well, you are more valuable to them.)
ublock is cheaper and actually works
So premium users put their data on a pedestal for Google? That's fun
That's generally; if you have an account, you are easier to track for them.
That has been my specific issue with paying for any Google product always. I understand when I am using a product for free that I am not necessarily the customer and that money has to be made off of me or the users more generally somehow. That's "fine" (ish, not really, but that has more to do with issues of security than anything).
However when I pay for a product or service, I want to now be the customer and I want to be in control of my data and have the company cater to me. If, when paying for a Google service, there was some legally relevant things in place that insured I was no longer being tracked and used to generate revenue via third parties I would gladly pay. Probably more than they are charging now, but instead they want to have it both ways which is just not OK with me.
Well yes, you didn't get first ads. But what about second ads?
I got the same Sunday banner in the middle of the screen similar to where shorts show up. Never in my life have I watched or cared for American football. Clearly a waste of money for the advertising company since I just closed it by pressing the x same as shorts on desktop.
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I'd bet that channel "members" don't get ads for that channel regardless of premium status.
IMO, Google made premium, almost nobody bought it. So they went after adblockers, hoping that people would get premium to get rid of the ads. People most just Adblock harder.
While this is happening, one exec is peering over the fence at twitch. Where they only way to get away from ads without a pretty good Adblock, is to subscribe to the individual creator.
So they make "memberships" to channels a thing.
Almost nobody buys that either. So they go... What if, even if someone is premium, we give them ads, unless they're a channel member.
Genius.
Paying to block ads per creator/channel/whatever, is a special level of bullshit that twitch has always had.
The system is working as expected. The companies are trying to find the best way to extract the most value from you using their platform.
This is all conjecture right?
Indeed. I have absolutely no way of knowing anything for certain.
I'm just screaming into the void from this hellscape we call Earth.
If this goes live, I'm out. YT premium is my most expensive subscription, but I watch enough YouTube that I'm OK with it, especially considering that it supports creators more than ad viewers. If I still get ads? Nah dawg. I'll divy up that money amongst patreons or whatever, and install add blockers.
If your main reason for paying premium is for ad blocking, I’d suggest just cancelling it now and using ad blockers. If you want to support creators, I’d say that it’s better to cancel and subscribe to a few patreons - I’d pick some of the smaller creators you like, to spread some of that support around a bit.
If you use iOS devices for watching YouTube, look into side-loading uYou+, it’s basically an edited YouTube app that removes most of the ads. You can stream from your phone to the apple TV, too, also without ads.
Not sure what the android equivalent is, but someone else will know - hopefully they will share in the comments also.
You're suggesting turning a $15 or so YouTube bill into a $50+ Patreon bill depending on what creators they watch
Why don’t you just cancel it now and use ad blockers?
Joel explains this in the second sentence: "I’m OK with it, especially considering that it supports creators more than ad viewers"
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ReVanced is great on Android, it also enables other YouTube premium features such as picture-in-picure mode.
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I use New Pipe for android and Freetube for desktop. I have all the YouTube premium features at $0 cost and no ads hehe
I use revanced, it's good
I haven't been able to use new pipe since a few months back, did they fix it?
My NewPipe hasn't broken for a significant time in quite a while, it's good to go in my experience
I guess they are premium ads?
this but unironically
advertisers paid a premium
Ad companies have the new subscription tier of Premium Buster, so now you have to upgrade to Premium Buster Buster
I love seeing a Big Hit reference. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who's ever seen that movie.
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The second i see an ad in cancelling my subscription
You do see ads, you just don't realize it. There are multiple 1-2 minute videos on your feed usually with the title "Introducing [insert product]" and these are product placements that YouTube is very well aware of. They also had the audacity to tell me that these are ads but they don't "interfere" with me watching videos. So, they are injecting ads into premium subscriber feeds already. Disgusting company.
That's true.
I can skip those at least. And do with sponsorblock
Same.
What ads? (User without premium, but proper browser and adblocker)
Firebox mobile + unlock origin extension + YouTube.com.
You get everything that YouTube premium can offer. Including screen off play.
personaldnsfilter + the Youtube app. Fuck ads.
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Don't worry, simply pay for Youtube Premium+ to get rid of ads on Premium!
Hi, would you like to try Youtube Premium PLATINUM for only another $2.99? It's EVEN MORE ad-free! We mean it!
Youtube Premium plus Ultra!
whos gonna prosecute any of this shit now
Oh they will prosecute! They will prosecute people with adblocks and alternative clients.
This is why I stopped paying them. Fuck them, you're just an source of income to them.
I mean, yeah, what kind of relationship did you expect?
They're not running youtube for the good of their heart
Lol godamnit I just found out YouTube is a business, you're getting downvoted!
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Yeah I stopped paying for premium once I’d figured out using Safari on my phone with an ad blocker works with YouTube still lol
I use Firefox with ublock on my phone and I get no ads. Or I watch them in Newpipe.
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It is just YT testing new exciting features, nothing to worry about.
Suckers paying for it
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