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[–] x_pikl_x@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

The advertising industry used to call this an Advertorial, now it's known as native marketing. All the same, it's an ad disguised as news. You pay the journalist to make it look like there's some crazy spike in traffic and the piper plays his pipe as the mice fall in line behind him to see what the hype is.

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 17 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Mastadon is nice. I like Bluesky better. I think if they can eventually talk between the two, they will both win.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You can bridge the two now.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 1 points 7 minutes ago

Bridging never really works.

[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

What do you like about bluesky more?

[–] spiderman@ani.social 7 points 12 hours ago

their discover feed and ability to create custom feeds

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 16 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

installs both

Now... fight for my amusement.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

This is the correct attitude.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago

I don't recall feeling overly impressed with content on Mastodon, it's just social media, but with a small userbase, I'm guessing more tech-saavy. I think what ultimately "wins" in the social media space is wherever "everybody" ends up going. Right now, Bluesky seems to have the momentum going for it as people are flocking to it in droves, but it's hard to tell how sustainable it is long-term as the hype settles down. Right now everybody is excited and seems like they're trying to make it a positive, creative, liberal space, but eventually trolls will start invading the space and it'll be like every other social media site unless it's somehow structured in a way as to avoid that.

[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 hours ago

Mastodon is better.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 25 points 19 hours ago

Speaking of things people are better without, I wish everyone would stop using Medium. There's so many better alternatives - Write Freely, Wordpress, Ghost, just to name a few.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 59 points 1 day ago (2 children)

im gonna be real, this guy sounds like a loser. he talks about the progressive political lean and the porn as if they're BAD things

[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Porn industry is certainly a bad thing though. It is quite hostile to women, and many have been harmed by it and wished they had a good exit.

Bit I definitely agree that progressive lean is a good thing. Fwiw I didn't read this article.

[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 hours ago

The modern porn industry is much more independent than it used to be. Most creators control and own their content and choose where it gets uploaded initially. In the past, the porn business was absolutely abusive to their stars but I think it's much less the case these days. Filmmakers have to fight for actors because if they don't treat them well or pay them their worth, they'll just post their own content directly to their fans. I'm sure there are still huge negatives but I just don't think it's as bad as it once was and I certainly don't think the porn industry is something to be upset about these days.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Those are precisely why I like BlueSky. I don't know if this was normal for twitter or what, but I learned you can search for a hashtag of your kinks (exp. #bigboobs) and you can see porn from people that have posted pics or posts about it. You can also hide other tags from ever showing up in the results, which lets you finetune what you're looking for. I know the search works relatively the same as twitter with respect to hashtags, but was porn on twitter this whole time?

[–] OlPatchy2Eyes@slrpnk.net 54 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's weird to me how obsessed some people are with proving to the world that their social media platform of choice is superior. The Fediverse works, we have content, and anyone who decides to seek out a platform that offers what the Fediverse offers can join. Tell your friends about your experience if they might be interested but if they don't stick with it you don't have to be all salty about it.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago

Agreed. It's silly.

I like Mastodon. It's like social media from 2010, chronological, only seeing what you want, great curation tools, and no ads or stupid algorithm. Moderation is also way better on Mastodon, though it can vary by instance.

I haven't used BlueSky, but I imagine it feels pretty familiar, which is what a lot of people want, and that's cool too.

They can both be good things.

[–] xnx@slrpnk.net 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Mastodon is lead by a singular developer that uses Ruby for his app that hasnt gotten a new feature in 2+ years and they dont accept pull requests from community members that have been adding features to third party apps that new users never learn exist because they get stufk between learning what a “fediverse instance” is

Meanwhile Bluesky has features twitter or any other platform dont have yet (custom algorithms, chronological feed with a couple posts from your custom feeds in between some chronological posts, adding custom moderators)

The protocol that Bluesky used also has a lemmy/reddit alternative too https://frontpage.fyi/ (in beta)

[–] unrushed233@lemmings.world 6 points 19 hours ago

That's definitely not beta, it feels more like a very early alpha

And it looks more like Hacker News or lobste.rs, not Lemmy or Reddit, since it doesn't allow the creation of threads, only posting URLs?

[–] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 150 points 1 day ago (55 children)

As long as the fediverse has a barrier to entry for most people of mandating choosing a server first, it will never become the mainstream choice.

[–] unrushed233@lemmings.world 2 points 10 hours ago

mastodon.social exists

It's literally there to take the choice away from new users

[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 3 points 12 hours ago

You don't have to choose. Joinmastodon.org chooses for you, and you can choose one yourself as well but only if you want to.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Somebody definitely needs to make a frontend that makes it smooth.

[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 8 points 21 hours ago

joinmastodon.org (the 'official' way to get join mastodon), has a default server for its join button. To me this looks very similar to the default server that appears when you try to create a bluesky account. So... I guess that's not a barrier after all.

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[–] timconspicuous@lemmy.ml 80 points 1 day ago (3 children)

While I generally avoid politics on this blog, it’s hard to ignore the political biases permeating X and BlueSky. X has veered heavily toward far-right ideologies, while BlueSky is often associated with far-left communities. This polarized landscape doesn’t work for those of us seeking a neutral space for meaningful interactions.

lol

[–] Bremmy@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago

Gives big "both sides are bad" energy

[–] clot27@lemm.ee 7 points 18 hours ago

That cracked me up

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[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 40 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Mastodon would be fine if all I cared to follow was Linux news and if I understood German and Japanese.

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[–] audaxdreik@pawb.social 62 points 1 day ago (7 children)

All these "why are people using Bluesky and not Mastodon" topics are starting to give me a headache. You've been told and on some level, I have to assume you understand the reasons, but are simply unwilling to address them. When people say, "it's difficult to use" instead of understanding why they think that way, you just dismissively wave your hands and say, "no it's not".

If you want people to use Mastodon, you need to SHOW people the power of federation while HIDING all the rough bits. People want to go to where the friends, writers, artists, scientists, etc. they want to follow are and sign up for an account there. Simple as. In this way, they very much want at least the appearance of centralization. I don't want to have to get balls deep in an instance's politics to understand their moderation, who they're federated with, if they have the funds to operate into the foreseeable future, and how to migrate my data if any of those things goes sideways.

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