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[–] 4oreman@lemy.lol 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is a conspiracy by fluoridians.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thats what the fluoridiots say.

[–] 4oreman@lemy.lol 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] nonfuinoncuro@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

fluorida man strikes again

[–] Chekhovs_Gun@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Shawty had them blackened-out teeth (teeth)
Tooths with the fur (with the fur)
The whole clinic was looking at her
She hit the fluor (she hit the fluor)
Next thing you know
Shawty's teeth got glow, glow, glow, glow, glow, glow, glow

Artist: Fluo Rida
Song: Glow

Edit: formatting

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 1 points 22 hours ago

Tooths with the fur (with the fur)

This is too much

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[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah but I read an article on a bullshit website. I think some no name website knows more than a toxicologist

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why is some dumb scientist expert trying to tell me, a person who pays for an internet connection, what the truth is?

Because something something shill money.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago

I believe the objection to fluoride is that it is a tranquilizer that keeps us from achieving glory through violent uprising... or sweet sweet dentist profits.

[–] wolfshadowheart@leminal.space 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Back when I was in college, people didn't like fluoride because it calcifies the pinneal gland. I assume that rhetoric has only been further exaggerated over the years

[–] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Another point that conspiracy bros will bring up is that fluoride is a toxic byproduct of aluminum manufacture and dumping it into the water supply is a cheap way for Alcoa to dispose of it benevolently.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The majority of fluoride that is released into our water supply is a by-product of fertilizer production.

[–] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

Even better!

[–] nBodyProblem@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Honestly it really is sad, we have so many more uses for it

Every atom of fluoride going into our water is another atom that can’t go into chlorine trifluoride production. Putting it into the water is a huge sacrifice we make for the health of society.

[–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Real men make chlorine pentafluoride anyway. We have no use for pathetic hypergolic oxidisers with only three fluorine atoms.

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[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It does do this. However so does ageing, low sunlight exposure, low altitude, ethnicity, sex, nutrition, neuro-divergence, cell phone use, EM fields... you get the idea.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't forget the gravitational pull of Betelgeuse. In a very, very small way, that also effects calcification of the pineal gland.

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[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Does fluoride-enhanced water actually do this, though? Or just pure fluoride? Yes, pure fluoride has an effect, but I always thought the miniscule amount in our water is not enough to actually make a difference to the natural calcification of our pineal gland, anyways.

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[–] RQG@lemmy.world 259 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (21 children)

Toxicologist here. I think that take is dishonest or dumb.

Taking a lethal dose is almost never the concern with any substance in our drinking water.

Hormones, heavy metals, persistent organic chemicals, ammonia are all in our drinking water. But for all of them we can't drink enough water to die from a high dose.

Some of them still have a large effect on our bodies.

It's about the longterm effects. Which we need longterm studies to learn about. That makes them harder to study.

Still doesn't mean flouride does anything bad longerm. But the argument is bad.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

We probably have enough A/B data now to make some inferences yeah? Compare countries with fluoridated water to countries without.

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[–] observes_depths@aussie.zone 2 points 22 hours ago

This. How can we be completely certain that something isn't damaging over the long term. I'm not anti fluoride, but healthy debate and scepticism is a good thing, especially when we're all forced to consume a substance with the only alternative being dehydration and death. People need to be free to make their own choices.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 111 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Yeah, by this argument lead in the water isn't a concern.

[–] reptar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

lead poisoning becomes evident pretty early though doesn't it? (With respect to kids)

I would think that the ratio of persistent exposure to unsafe level has got to be easily higher in cases like Flint than any fluoride-in-the-water usage. Just speculation on my part.

What measures are taken to avoid screwing up the dosage, anyone know? Maybe predilute so that an oops requires multiple buckets instead of vials?

[–] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 106 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You just made me mad by helping me realize that the Trump bros are going to break water by removing fluoride long before they fix water by removing lead.

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[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 89 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh yeah? And what if someone ignores that, simply lies and says it's toxic? I'm convinced!

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[–] Heavybell@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The people who need to hear this sadly would not believe that too much water can kill you even if you showed them someone die from it, I fear. I'd also be shocked if they read "water poisoning" and didn't think of poisoned water.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I didn’t know this was a thing when I was younger, but not young enough to not be classified as a moron.

Drank about 7-8 litres of water in 3 hours without going to the bathroom as a contest against a work colleague. Suffice to say I started feeling a little off on the way home, even after going to the bathroom. Years later I finally learned you can drown yourself from drinking too much and the symptoms were eerily close to what I experienced that night.

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[–] satans_methpipe@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Agreed but can we turn down the chloramine valve? It tastes awful.

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