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[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 72 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Because the big players there are not serious idealogues, they are paid a paltry sum through private channels to constantly spread Russian and Chinese disinformation in their larger psyop campaign against the West.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Highly doubtful. The amount of time, money, and effort would be much better spent elsewhere. Lemmy’s audience is very small.

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Time

Basically none on the part of the handlers. Often this arrangement is handled by a private firm that doesn't necessarily have to be Russian or Chinese, I have heard of one operating in Australia. The posters themselves are spending a lot of time, but they're the ones selling it.

Money

Again, they're not exactly paying these guys a living wage, and even if they were, it's peanut crumbs for state-level actors.

Effort

A lot of people say that Lemmy is not worth the effort to demoralize because it's too small, I say the effort is too small to not be worth the investment. I would even say that Lemmy users are self-selected for radicalization in some ways, broadly speaking they are fed up with corporate social media and corporatism in general.

It's also a somewhat important step to have a place they can speak unfiltered amongst themselves, no matter how small the clubhouse is. That's where the real funky shit happens.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I doubt those people are even aware of Lemmy, let alone hiring teams of people to post here. But regardless of how plausible it is, this is just speculation with no evidence behind it.

That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

commercial and propaganda bots have a tendency of taking small fora, and other sites with the ability to post, offline, as they overwhelm these super tiny venues, once their automated scrapers find them. There doesn't have to be a team of people doing something other than monitoring bots.

Also, I doubt anyone gets exposed to lemmy alone. It is very reasonable to believe many spend time on places worth using actual people to tailor their messaging to, and then carry that over here, and anywhere else they go. Point being, there no place so small that it becomes void of this.

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[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago

For anyone that needs to hear it, you can have both. You can live in a free society and also plot to bisect your nearest oligarch next time they go to their favorite sushi restaurant

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Exactly. Watch the downvotes for your comment roll in as day becomes night in the west.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think you two need to check your tin foil supply.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

as day becomes night in the west.

Title of my wild west themed romance novel

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think I saw that in LaGuardia. Cover has a cowboy rubbing his horse’s backside as the sun sets behind the old saloon?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oh FUCK! That illustration was supposed to be part of a series on centaur fucking for tumblr!

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A whopping two downvotes, yeah I'm sure the paid social media spam targets the 17k active users on lemmy.world and not the billions of users on Facebook

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s only 2 PM in California.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s bedtime here now, nothing changed. Care to re-evaluate your conspiracy theories yet?

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The downvotes quadrupled while the upvotes failed to double. I think I’ll keep my theory a little longer.

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[–] Transform2942@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I can't speak for the other Lefties on here but I'm a Western citizen and former proud Liberal persuaded by arguments on this very website

[–] socsa@piefed.social 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Is there any other kind of genocide besides institutionalized?

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 19 hours ago

I suppose a population could try to genocide another population without the government support.

[–] obre@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

I guess commonplace decentralized pogroms like what happened to Jews and Roma throughout Europe historically

[–] random@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

if everyone would mutually agree on killing certain people they could commit it without an institution ig

[–] Mechaguana@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is class warfare institutionalized? Seems like a non conscious consensus sometimes

[–] random@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

but they do need the state to protect their property, so it's institutionalised imo

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz -4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Is class warfare institutionalized?

More like fictionalized.

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