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[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 33 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

The Supreme Court just publicly called for Congress to weigh in on who is responsible?

What is this, solicitation of bribes? Because these big companies are going to try to swing the vote with cash.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 20 points 5 hours ago

What this actually is: They have Verizon bribing them and the MPAA bribing them. They don't want to shrug either one of them off, so they'll let the United States citizens make the choice, you know, in good faith in all, so the next 20 years of bullahit they pull that's against public opinion, They can just point back to this one time

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 87 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

BMW should be liable for its drivers not using their turn signals.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago

Gun companies should be liable for people being shot with their guns

[–] kevin@programming.dev 18 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

The relationship is different though, BMW is not a service provider.

A better analogy would be the phone company. Is it their job to monitor their customers conversation and determine the legality of what is being said?

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 2 points 4 minutes ago

BMW provides the service of being able to buy and use their product. The service of a gun manufacturer is providing you with a murder weapon (yes, it also can be used for sports). The service of a grocery store is providing you with a place to buy your groceries (and in the US also guns). Why is it different? Whether the product is a connection to the internet or a car, both companies provide a service for money.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 39 minutes ago

No that's the NSA's job

[–] eskimofry@lemm.ee 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I am sure BMW's TOS has a sentence in there somewhere that they are your daddy once you sign up and this is binding forever. Looks like that means they are a service provider for life.

Also.. isn't a subscription for heated seats means they provide a live service that we need to pay regularly to maintain?

[–] kevin@programming.dev 1 points 3 hours ago

All very true, BMW is a very scummy company lately.

My argument was that primarily, BMW is a manufacturer of a product. It would be a better analogy to a modem company being sued for the content that was transmitted through their device.

Side note, I think the feature unlock trend in cars is the worst possible thing.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 17 points 9 hours ago

I could see the Supreme Court rejecting this based on that idea... If you blame the manufacturer, that's going to open up all manner of gun lawsuits, ammunition lawsuits, etc.