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[–] spauldo@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yet I continue to constantly hear from my conservative colleagues about how bad Biden is for the oil industry...

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does your colleagues benefit from a good oil industry? What's it to them anyway?

You could ask them why they're supporting the oil industry. You won't get a meaningful answer, but you could make them think about it. The more people think, the less conservative they'll be.

[–] spauldo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, they do. So do I, for that matter. While my part of the company focuses more on government projects like water plants, fuel depots, and utility management, the rest of the company does process automation in the energy sector. That's a fancy way of saying they build control systems for refineries.

I disagree with your assertion that more thought leads to less conservatism. The particular coworker I'm talking about does quite a bit of thinking, and is quite eloquent. He's still wrong, of course, but it's due to his opinions, his priorities, and what he chooses to believe more than a lack of thought.

[–] bouncing@partizle.com 15 points 1 year ago

They are not conflicting. Yes oil production is higher but that’s mostly in response to OPEC producing less.

Overall fossil fuel use is in decline. Probably not enough decline to arrest the greenhouse effect, but that ship has already sailed.

[–] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Well see the real harm reduction is when the US produces 100% of the world's oil, because then we can control how it is burned and for what purposes. This is how we stop global warming, by ensuring that all of the world's oil is used only to make the our own economic line go up and not wasted on anything else. That's the real harm reduction sweaty

[–] WaterBowlSlime@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

That emoji makes the blob look like a locoroco, I love it!

[–] atetulo@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As long as oil remains economical, countries will continue to use it.

There is no chance in hell China, the US, or Russia cuts oil usage because it would give their enemies an advantage.

Anyone who thinks reducing their own carbon footprint has any impact is ignorant to the world they live in. These nations would burn every last drop if it remained economical.

[–] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Isn't China hitting peak oil next year because of their EV transition?

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

So far the "conflict" is so one sided that it's hardly a conflict at all, especially considering the death-juice is being wrung out of the Earth at an all-time high. doomer

[–] blazera@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, i tried telling everyone that "climate change" bill contained provisions for millions of acres of new oil drilling leases. The environment will only continue to get worse under this administration.

[–] drekly@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

and which do you think it would get better under?

[–] blazera@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

a nonexistent progressive party

[–] atetulo@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

One that has no chance of winning an election.

Superpowers aren't going to curtail oil usage until it's no longer economical. Doing so beforehand would give their adversaries an advantage.

It's starting to make sense why so many people of the previous generation don't really care about politics. The ruling class is going to do whatever it takes to maintain their control. We're just pawns in their game.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

But how does it compare to equal oil production overseas and being shipped back over here?

[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

The only energy related effort the US is making and will ever make is getting more oil out of the ground to sell.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


United States domestic oil production hit an all-time high last week, contrasting with efforts to slice heat-trapping carbon emissions by the Biden administration and world leaders.

And the designated president of upcoming climate negotiations heads the United Arab Emirates national oil company, which has announced plans to boost drilling.

White House officials have long considered increased oil production inside the United States as a bridge to help soften the transition to renewable energy sources.

The Biden administration has committed several hundred billions of dollars in government incentives for moving away from fossil fuels to limit the damage from climate change.

Just because the United States is increasing oil production, that doesn’t mean it won’t phase down emissions, said Samantha Gross, director of energy security and climate at the centrist Brookings Institution.

Stanford’s Jackson said the Biden administration has swung back and forth on energy exploration, approving the Willow oil project in Alaska but cancelling drilling permits in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.


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[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago
[–] vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org -3 points 1 year ago