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[–] carp1@lemm.ee 15 points 18 hours ago

awesome, merry christmas

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 38 points 21 hours ago

every submit a help desk ticket to Asus asking wtf is going on

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 342 points 1 day ago (2 children)

When you turn on your PC and notice that there’s a huge Christmas banner on your desktop, do not panic – your device is not compromised.

Hah, well a vendor just pushed unapproved executable to the device and ran it without consent. Under any definition or other context it's definitely compromised.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 94 points 1 day ago (11 children)

This is why I boycott Logitech, they started pushing the Logitech Download Assistant through Windows Update as soon as you connect a Logitech mouse/keyboard.

It autoruns not only when it is first installed but on every startup.

It is rather annoying to try and uninstall it, I don't get why there has been so little backlash against this....

Microsoft permitting this is devaluing Windows Update, the driver (.inf) should be installed automatically, any executable file that WU wants to download and run on your computer should just bring up a small Windows notification saying something like this:

The device you just installed requests to download and run the following program from Windows Update:

Logitech Download Assistant

Will you approve or reject this request? Approve/Reject

It is just terrible that this is permitted

[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

This is why I boycott Logitech

You should boycott Microsoft instead. As you say, they're the ones permitting it.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 2 points 15 hours ago (12 children)

I would if I could, but I work with Windows and if I migrate to Linux at home, my skills in Windows would dimminish

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[–] pufferfisherpowder@lemmy.world 14 points 23 hours ago

I get this request sometimes on my work machine. Guess what? I don't even have the rights to install it. Insanity

[–] mat@linux.community 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I never knew about this (using Linux) but when I plugged my mouse onto a friend's laptop and suddenly a big banner animated onscreen, my heart sank lol. No idea how this works but it was pretty unexpected.

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[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 39 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Welp, seems ASUS motherboards also push this by default: https://www.techpowerup.com/248827/asus-z390-motherboards-automatically-push-software-into-your-windows-installation

During testing for our Intel Core i9-9900K review we found out that new ASUS Z390 motherboards automatically install software and drivers to your Windows 10 System, without the need for network access, and without any user knowledge or confirmation. This process happens in complete network-isolation (i.e. the machine has no Internet or LAN access).

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 131 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (31 children)

It is a part of the ASUS Armoury Crate software that is pre-installed on some ASUS PCs.

Always flash new OS if you buy a computer.

[–] Link@rentadrunk.org 116 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

That won’t get rid of it unless you also manually go into the BIOS and disable the install ASUS Armoury Crate setting as explained in the article.

If you don’t do this it will automatically reinstall even on a fresh install of Windows. Some of these bloatware programs will even install without an internet connection! This absolutely ludicrously stupid feature is called WPBT and is used by lots of manufacturers. Luckily it doesn’t work on Linux (at least for now…).

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 8 points 16 hours ago

Yup. And here i am, always telling people to first read the linked article, before they write.

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 18 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think it reinstalls itself if you install Linux

[–] lud@lemm.ee 7 points 17 hours ago
[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (4 children)

That's wild that it's a BIOS setting. Just an extra level of fuck you.

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[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 356 points 1 day ago (8 children)

If it's unwanted, disruptive, and (allegedly) impacts performance, that's not "malware-like". It's malware.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 188 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Confirmed, windows 11 is malware.

[–] amon@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

The seven windows 11 users disagree with you

(I am not one of them)

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[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 160 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Who green lit this? I really hope that person gets fired immediately.

The lack of any visual link to ASUS isn't even the biggest problem for me; it's that ASUS rolls out a program that (presumably) puts itself in autostart by default and just pops up without prompt at all.

Edit: There's a fucking setting in the BIOS to auto-install ASUS' bullshit software? And it's enabled by default.... jesus fucking christ

[–] equivocal@lemm.ee 53 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Most computers firmware can store a Windows executable. Microsoft pushed for an addition to the ACPI tables called WPBT. That stores a Windows exectuable in the firmware. It is of course totally used for the intended purpose...

[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 44 points 1 day ago

I'm always dismayed but not surprised by how many people don't know about Windows Platform Binary Table, which has existed since Windows 8. It's not exactly the type of feature that Microsoft or the board vendors would want to publicize, seeing as it gives them persistent rootkit capabilities on the same level as UEFI rootkits.

Most normal people's model of Windows security is "if something goes wrong then I wipe the disk and reinstall Windows," and WPBT completely breaks that model, and has been doing so for 12 years.

Thankfully there are ways to disable it:

https://github.com/Jamesits/dropWPBT

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 11 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

There has been for years now. Disabling it is part of my first-time setup for a new board.

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

My ASUS X470 board doesn't have it, though; guess it's a bit too old for that

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[–] jaxiiruff@lemmy.zip 56 points 1 day ago (5 children)

You just cant make this shit up. Truly is year of the linux desktop.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 10 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I feel like there would be no "Year of the Linux Desktop", but rather the year of "Oh wow when did we hit 20% already?" A death of a thousand cuts is more plausible.

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[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 64 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'd love to know if this was just some guy who went 'let's ship it to all our customers!' or if this was a C-level 300 hours of meetings type of thing which concluded that spreading christmas ~~malware~~ cheer was the right move.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca -5 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

And again, don't have to deal with this corporate nonsense on my Linux machine. Maybe at work just ask IT to switch your machine to Linux. They likely won't, but if enough people complain and ask, they might actually start thinking about using sane systems

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[–] tabular@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

An unsolicited Christmas card through a letterbox would have at least been less worrying.

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