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[–] quixotic120@lemmy.world 114 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (20 children)

Except people aren’t necessarily going back to piracy en masse

Torrent sites are dwindling, even the big ones have sad membership numbers compared to 10yrs ago

A large amount of internet users access the internet via devices that are openly hostile to or outright disallow anything that would enable piracy. The devices are then connected to an internet that is further hostile and aims to steer you away from anything deemed unsavory

Phones and tablets are cumbersome and unintuitive to navigate. In the case of apple torrent clients are not allowed to be listed on their app store and sideloading is involved and kind of a pain. Chromebooks and windows 11 are better obviously but less utilized then you’d think

But that leads to the second point, which is kind of angry old man yells at cloud, but people are just less tech inclined now. It makes sense because modern tech is designed to oppress the user whereas tech in the late 90s and early 2000s was more to empower them. They don’t bother to figure out how to install applications, use the file explorer, change settings, etc. the very basic steps needed to pirate shit (you obviously don’t need to be a super hacker). They don’t need to. The command prompt or a terminal is something that makes them think you’re hacking shit

They download applications like steam and then their browser auto opens the installer, then steam handles installing games and mods from that point on. They are safeguarded against having to deal with the icky filesystem and their hand is held every step of the way. Or they just download stuff from the official MS app store and even more hand holding. It’s okay because they’re only gonna install 5 streaming apps anyway and then use the browser to visit the 6 approved websites that google or bing search sends you to for basically any query.

And that’s only if they actually have a proper computer. If they have a tablet or phone they either are pushed extremely heavily towards the above scenario, or in the case of apple they simply have no other option

10 years from now the internet will just be 2-3 social media sites, a few shopping conglomerates, wikis, and streaming sites. The devices used to access will no longer let you access the filesystem directly, apps will be unable to be installed if they aren’t code signed by apple or google or ms or whoever, sealed in epoxy, and draconian drm everywhere. 40 years from now your grandchildren will think you’re weird for complaining about how you used to have autonomy and authority over your devices once you owned them and they’ll remind you it’s time to pay another $400 bezobucks to rent the google chrome ar internet hub for another month because you’re not allowed to own it and it’s a federal crime to take it apart

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Direct download piracy and streaming is surprisingly popular.

With a bit of effort you can stream any movie directly to your TV for a few moneys a month (or free, but paying for the essential bits removes the jankiness)

Basically you select the movie, a system finds the torrent or DDL, a service downloads it (or has it cached) and you stream it to your device.

[–] nshibj@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

With a bit of effort you can stream any movie directly to your TV for a few moneys a month (or free, but paying for the essential bits removes the jankiness)

Something I learned back in the day: "Never pay for warez". Pirate all you want, the moment you are paying, pay the creator of the product you're interested in, not someone who pirated it and wants to profit from distributing it without a licence.

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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

While I agree with the trend for the average person, I think in pure numbers there are always going to be more tech savvy people in the foreseeable future.

Sure, 80% of people online in the 2000s and 90s were all tech savvy hobbyists, but their numbers was low (let’s say a million).

Now only 0.5% might be tech savvy, but that is 0.5% of a billion people, which would be 5 mil compared to 800k above.

I obviously picked convenient numbers but the point still stands, there are lots of tech savvy places today and it’s growing, just not as fast as the non tech savvy crowd unfortunately.

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[–] nul42@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 days ago (8 children)

2007? I remember watching a DivX of The Matrix back in 99. Prior to that I remember watching south park episodes in the RealPlayer.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

I watched Key The Metal Idol in 56 kbps. Downloaded, of course, because trying to stream using RealPlayer never fucking worked. I'm pretty sure I could fire up a server and client over my home network, to-day, and it'd still pause with "Buffering..." twice per minute.

Anyway, I'm discussing video on Game Boy in another thread, and dial-up quality video was still ridiculous.

[–] mynameisigglepiggle@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Those RealPlayer Southpark episodes were 15mb and had 8 pixels

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago

South Park's graphics were so bad back then that probably almost sufficed.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago

I watched the entirety of Blair witch project the week before it came out in a real player at 300 by 200 pixels. I kept rotating between watching it thumbnail sized and watching it regular player sized. Both were equally inferiorating

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[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I haven't stopped sailing those seas. A pirate's life for me. :)

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Same same same yaaaar

[–] Godort@lemm.ee 85 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Try the 70s.

That was when VHS and cassette tapes started to hit the market and there was no copy protection on those. Following that, people copied floppy disks enough that they had to make that "dont copy that floppy" jingle.

There was a brief period with the switch to digital and CDROMs where piracy stopped, but then CD burners hit the market and it started again.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 60 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It turns out in every era, copyright is a sham. Information in its natural state is free - our legal system tries to change that.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The laws around copyright are designed to prevent citizens from doing things.

The laws around human rights are designed to preventing the government from doing things.

The later expands your agency while the former restricts it.

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[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 68 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

2007? Anon is a sweet summer child.

[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'll say. I was sailing the seas back in the late '90s. By 2007, I had amassed quite a hoard of treasure.

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 38 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Motherfucker was unborn while the rest of us were downloading Darude - Sandstorm on Napster.

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[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 29 points 2 days ago (5 children)

OP forgot Napster, as well as the p2p networks of old like WinMX, Kazaa, etc, nevermind Usenet.

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[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 62 points 2 days ago (4 children)

everyone is forced to pay for media

Anon never copy vhs, cassette tape, cd, and dvd. I lived in southeast asia and pirated cd/dvd is openly sold in night market and low foot traffic part of the mall throughout the late 90s till early 2010s, only occasionally they got raid. Before that we basically record show from cable and rental then copy for each others.

But yes, as GabeN proved again and again, piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem. Almost.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (6 children)

All I'm going to say is every computer I had was equipped with 2 disk drives until 2010. Elder Millennials and Gen X know why.

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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 2 days ago (3 children)

You pirate because prices are too high

I pirate because I have kleptomania

We are not the same

[–] introvertcatto@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

But piracy is not theft, it's copyright infringement.

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[–] exploitedamerican@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

Netflix entered into the already existing sphere of greed based commodification / exploitation that legacy media created decades ago. these legacy media conglomerates (owned circularly by the same big players in wall street black rock, vangaurd, state street et all.) dominate and control multiple industries and now Netflix is just part of that same ecosystem amassing wealth for their own self centered agenda without much, if any oversight at all. Theres just few greedy old cigar smoking men or rather boardrooms lead by these same men controling a majority of the world. Blackrock, blackston, state street and vanguard circularly own about 20% of disney and they own around the same percentage of netflix as well. Nevermind all the other media outlets they own large shareholding positions of. Greed is not the accidental result its the primary objective

[–] Reality_Suit@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago

People are willing to pay at least some amount if priced appropriately. Otherwise, we're going to take it for free. Remember, companies we're reporting record PROFITS during a pandemic when most people were struggling.

https://www.vendavo.com/all/willingness-to-pay/

https://fortune.com/2022/03/31/us-companies-record-profits-2021-price-hikes-inflation/

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 12 points 2 days ago (12 children)

I want to watch Dark Matter without a million popups, malware or shady "trust me bro" programs.

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