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I've been monitoring, checking whether my posts or comments appear on external instances, including mastodon, and it doesn't seem to be happening.

See a prior post of mine where I provided some specific examples: https://lemmy.ml/post/1310621

But generally, it seems you could go through my profile and check any post/comment to an external community.

Obviously this is frustrating to me as a user.

But big picture here is whether this is a generally problem for lemmy.ml as a whole. Other instances seem to be federating just fine, but perhaps something has gone wrong with this server or there's a bug that has been tripped here that might occur on other instances too.


Edit thanks for all the replies and confirmations of federation working!! Really! Polite and helpful, wonderful to see … hope I didn’t come off as whiny in this post.

I still think there are problems and maybe things getting lost.

Eg: a post on which I commented, viewed on lemmy.ml: https://lemmy.ml/post/1361008, and the posts original location on beehaw https://beehaw.org/post/639764. Mine is the oldest so sorting by old should show it, or in the case of beehaw, not. And just to clarify, lemmy.ml and beehaw still federate.


EDIT2 Did another test, commenting on an external post and it went through immediately. So it seems the issue is intermittent, as other comments have testified. Still might be a problem worth addressing.

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[–] FaizalR@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From all the comments, it proves otherwise. If you are on Mastodon try to search your lemmy @username@server there.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, it proves that federation is happening. Which is great.

But it doesn’t mean that federation problems are not also occurring. I just checked one of my comments to a beehaw post 2 days ago, and it still doesn’t appear there. Things can get lost if federation goes bad, from what I’ve seen.

Also, maybe I’ve been impatient on some instances.

This thread has huge ham radio vibes and I love it.

[–] livus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I'm seeing your post via kbin.social.

[–] Kaldo@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not specific to lemmy.ml, I have both a beehaw and kbin account and by looking at threads from both sides I've noticed that sometimes I don't see replies to comments on kbin, it's like not everything gets synced properly every time.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Yea, I suspect that this is closer to the mark. It’s not a universal lack of feeerstion, but a bug that turns up from time to time.

In my experience so far, it’s happening with beehaw and startrek.website.

[–] Dusty@lemmy.dustybeer.com 2 points 1 year ago

You're showing up on my personal instance.

Things do sometimes take a bit to come across, and I tend to get a bunch of posts from a single instance come in at one. It does make a bit of a pain at times as I won't see anything at all from an instance, then my front page fills up with nothing but posts from one community within an instance (that's how I came across this thread).

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 year ago

I can see your post from lemmy.wtf :)

Because of the huge influx of new users (and bugs), federation will sometimes lag behind.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I saw you from Aussie.world

[–] ulu_mulu@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm on lemmy.world and see your post just fine, with all its comments.

I also went directly to lemmy.ml to check and I don't see differences from what I see on lemmy.world, maybe it's just a delay on federation? Accessing lemmy.ml sometimes give a bad gateway error.

[–] ContentSpy@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I have noticed on other instances also that same thing happening I think its a delay in federation

[–] RoundSparrow@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

So it seems the issue is intermittent, as other comments have testified. Still might be a problem worth addressing.

But it is a real issue. The regular 'nginx 500' errors on lemmy.ml and other instances are a problem that is impacting federaton, not just webapp clients.

See open bug reports: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3203 and https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3101

[–] WidowsFavoriteSon@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] WTFisthisOMGreally@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought beehaw defederated? Confused

[–] vtez44@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

They defederated from shitjustworks and Lemmy.world. They left .ml federated.

[–] Coki91@dormi.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I can see this from dormi.zone

[–] tom@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I'm seeing this comment organically (I e. Not via your profile) fine on Lemmy.fmhy.ml.

[–] Maestro@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see your post from kbin.social (which isn't even a Lemmy instance)

[–] Laraxus@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Also on kbin.social, can confirm it's visible

[–] juniper@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just seen your post from feddit.uk :) I do agree though, I have an account on feddit and on lemmy.world and when I view the same communities from both accounts I see a totally different number of comments or no comments at all / some posts don't show up / whatever. There's definitely some issues going on here and there.

[–] Haily@rblind.com 1 points 1 year ago

This. I’m commenting from rblind.com, and yours is the only comment I’m seeing, pun not intended. I hadn’t really noticed this until now, I just assumed Lemmy wasn’t all that popular yet. I’m guessing I’d see no comments whatsoever if I wasn’t subscribed to communities on feddit.uk.

[–] myofficialaccount@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm reading your post from my account at feddit.de. So there's that.

[–] Wutchilli@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Jup, Same here

[–] SillyJester@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

.ml definitely has a delay. I get your posts (instance's) periodically flooding my feed when the sync occurs. At least your sync eventually happens. Multiple people in the comments won't ever see my response. 😅

[–] ulu_mulu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I do, hi from lemmy.world :)

[–] SillyJester@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Hi! .world is fine, thankfully. Good choice. :)

[–] Thorned_Rose@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Also hi from kbin.social

As others have said, sometimes the federation can take a little while. This is software that's still in its baby stage. It will get better. It can be frustrating in the mean time but it's also super cool knowing that you're seeing the birth of something great and getting to participate in growing the Fediverse 😊

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