this post was submitted on 12 Jan 2025
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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OK peeps, I am seeing a lot of flamewars lately which go off-topic of this comm. I am also getting dozens of reports about people reporting each other for "rudeness" or "trolling". I don't want this comm to start becoming a drama haven, so I want to try and prevent people getting worked up like this.

What do you think about me starting to deploy strategic 1-day bans for people who I notice are getting into flamewars? If not, what else do you suggest to help people remain civil?

Don't just upvote/downvote. I won't take these into account, I want actual comments about this to better make a decision.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

I think short cooling bans are a great idea. And I think they help prevent permanent bans by allowing people to cool off.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Tiny one-day bans are barely a slap on the wrist, which some people need to help them cool off. The usual caveats apply like perhaps driver a warning first and all of that, but obviously depending on severity you may not want to wait for that to develop further, at which point a quick ban along with explanation should at least, again, allow them the time they need to cool down.

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 3 days ago (10 children)

Being mean to someone else because of what they said is fine, unless someone threatens someone or is mean because they're discriminating

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[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Rather than going straight to bans (except for egregious trolling, or repeat offenders) I think that maybe removing off-topic discussion threads in their entirety is probably the way to go. If they are discussing something that isn't directly related to the OPs original complaint, then it's off topic imo. That would cover 90% of the problem. Personally, I don't mind some strong language and argumentation so long as it's about the actual topic. While I know drama isn't everyone's jam, it can be entertaining for some folks. And I agree with @neurospice@lemmy.dbzer0.com that maybe a 24 hour or 48 hour post lock rule would also be helpful so people aren't going back to dredge up drama again in older posts, while still allowing time for folks to discuss the issue?

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The problem is that people don't have agree with what is "directly related". Just see the point about PTB in ytpb

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

True, but you can't please everyone.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 3 days ago

I am also getting dozens of reports about people reporting each other for "rudeness" or "trolling"

Ohh the irony haha... Germany dindu nuffin mate

Also, people over using report, should be the ones "modded", not the discussion.

Bad faith behavior should be banned tho.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I dont like the idea of banning people for speach that isnt calling for actionable violence.

U could just delete the whole comment thread (from point of off topic onward) for reason "off topic" and that would solve almost everything.

Im not sure how reporting works never done it and nobody has reported anything on the community i mod. But i can see that people would abuse it it an attempt to silence their opposition. I think bans for clearly bad faith reports is fair.

U think people should at least be warned prior to being sent to the sinbin.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

None of these already as clear but as you suspects. Neither will simply deleting comments pass uncontested (there's a post in ytpb right now about me doing exactly that) nor is "bad faith reports" obvious to those making them

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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 3 points 3 days ago

U could just delete the whole comment thread (from point of off topic onward) for reason "off topic" and that would solve almost everything.

If gotta to be done, that's how it should be done

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Moderator reports are currently not federated with remote Lemmy instances - so with your account being on Lemm.ee and the !news_summary@lemmy.dbzer0.com being on a different instance, whatever reports are being made you are not able to see them. This is only one of the many ways in which moderator tools for Lemmy suck ass atm. Another way is how that list of reports cannot be sorted or filtered in any way, besides resolved yet or not.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I’d rather mod reports not be federated. A lot of mods are power tripping and who the hell wants to earn a reputation as being a problem from some dick head mod across the entire federation?

I know it has downsides but I’d rather things stay decentralized.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The power tripping mod is the one who will be earning a bad rep across the fediverse. Why should they get away with it.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago

And you don’t think as someone who isn’t a mod, but also isn’t a liberal, won’t end up getting auto blocked from instances just because they have a backbone and threaten capital?

You’re just asking for a new Reddit. Block stupid mods and don’t go to their communities.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well thats incredibly annoying. I suspect its not federated cos the devs dont want that much moderation transparency hence modlog doesnt tell u which nod did what (it shoukd default to transparent and if people have issues change the settings)

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago (4 children)

That is intentional - the modlog used to say who, but then it changed and now it just says "mod".

Though the lack of federation of reports is planned to be fixed, somewhere in like 0.19.20 iirc (the current version is 0.19.18).

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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I dont like the idea of banning people for speach that isnt calling for actionable violence. // U could just delete the whole comment thread (from point of off topic onward) for reason “off topic” and that would solve almost everything.

Then the flame war continues in another comment chain.

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