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[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 93 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Love seeing how SHOCKED federated folks are at the mere implication of China being better than the US. I feel like if you view the USA from outside a highly myopic lens painted by extreme privilege, there is nothing redeemable about it. Even if the worst theories about China were true, they would be a drop in a bucket compared to how much evidenced misery the US has wrought. But most of the people slinging shit at China rarely care about the folks who are not white in the imperial core.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 73 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Liberals on the internet who've never been to China: "Wow, they can't even access Meta (TM) or X (TM). How do they live?

Me, a Chinese person visiting NYC: "Why the fuck is there no cell signal or Aircon in these subway stations? How do these people fucking live like this in the wealthiest city in earth?"

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[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 91 points 1 year ago (56 children)

Imagine seeing what China has done for its people and the members for the belt and road initiative and thinking they are worse than the US dedicating even more money to war is better. People literally just lap up all the piss from the oligarch masters.

There are so many instances of the CPC just up and forgiving debt from help they have donated to so many countries that are part of this initiative. No strings attached. The US meanwhile has being doing actual debt trap shit for decades. The information is out there. All you have to do is fucking look instead of regurgitating reddit bullshit some fed posted because that site is astroturfed to shit. China is trying to actually build up the world while the US tries to bomb more of it to rubble.

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[–] CicadaSpectre@lemmygrad.ml 85 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Mad respect to my comrades taking the time to try to engage and educate the liberals who literally refuse to have a positive thought about China. I've never seen one of them actually read an article or respond to the best points; usually they just find what they perceive is the weakest or most controversial argument and focus on that. Anything to deny the fact that sinophobic bias and believing propaganda is 90% of their reasoning for their shit takes. Still, I'm proud of the people in the community that still actively try to educate. I wish I had that patience anymore.

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[–] taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml 84 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Libs seething that China is a better country that didn't rely on settler colonialism and imperialism to grow it's power

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 92 points 1 year ago (12 children)

China is an anathema for liberals because it's a tangible real world demonstration that viable alternatives to liberal ideology are possible. The whole argument for liberalism is premised on the idea that liberalism sucks, but everything else is worse.

Liberals promoted western model as the only viable system going forward ever since USSR dissolved. Any country that deviated from this model was painted as being backwards and a type of country you wouldn't want to live in. Now we're seeing China developing rapidly and going from strength to strength. China doesn't suffer from the economic crashes the west has once every decade, it's continuously improving the standard of living for its people, it coexists peacefully with other countries. It's an example of an alternative model to liberalism that demonstrably produces better outcomes by pretty much every metric. This is why China is such a threat to liberals, it blows apart the argument that nothing better is possible.

[–] taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They would rather keep living a lie in which they're still the main character and that the world runs on simplistic logic akin to a Marvel movie. The illusion can't be kept up forever with the realities of China slowly dismantling the hegemony, tho tbh it's not like China needs to do much when the US is deleting itself

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[–] reverendz@lemmygrad.ml 46 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And slavery. Don't forget the slavery.

In fact, because of the wording of the 14th amendment, it's still cool. As long as you get locked up for committing a crime first.

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[–] soekarnoenjoyer@lemmygrad.ml 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Liberals Are Here and Mad Af, Lol, Also I Wished all Liberals To have a Fun Trip to the Friendly Wall 😊

[–] supersolid_snake@lemmygrad.ml 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Both are integral to their respective economies. That's the thing to understand.

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