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Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new "king"

Update: position got backed up by an official Proton post on Mastodon, it's an official Proton statement now. https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/113833073219145503

Update 2, plot-twist: they removed this response from Mastodon - seems they realize it exploded into their face!

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 33 points 10 hours ago

Yes I'm sure he'll crack down hard on all the tech companies that are giving him millions of dollars and kissing his feet...

What a moron.

[–] WhatSay@slrpnk.net 71 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

Taking the time to remove Google, embraced proton mail ... Maybe it's time to just write letters and send meme post cards.

[–] LeonenTheDK@lemmy.ca 22 points 11 hours ago

Meme post cards are a great idea actually.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 157 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

Standing up for the little guy. Huh. Is that why billionaires and CEO are throwing literal tens of millions at Trump? Why he staffed his cabinet with billionaires? Why the center of his policy is tax cuts for the giga wealthy, at the expense of everyone else and the national debt, at a time where wealth inequality is literally tearing the country apart?

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/15/trump-windfall-fundraising-500-million

https://www.axios.com/2024/12/09/trump-wealth-cabinet-politicians-billionaires

These are objective, public facts. Like, I'm way more conservative than Lemmy’s center and willing acknowledge any good Trump does, but what reality is this guy living in? Who is this statement for? Who the heck does he think is using Proton services? He just pissed off his employees and customers for… What?

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 34 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Probably doesn't want to get banned in the US... Or so my copium tells me.

Silver lining is that Proton is owned by a non-profit.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 25 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I was thinking this for a second, but is this really plausible? Normally when we talk about corporations we talk about how powerful they are and how they use different nations to locate headquarters and offices in order to mitigate legal and tax obligations. We regularly talk about how governments can't reign them in and how they act with impunity.

But now? "They HAVE to capitulate. They are just doing it to survive." Really? Do we really believe that? Or is it more likely that this is what they want and if they didn't, they'd be fighting tooth and nail to stop it? I'm with the second option honestly.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

That’s what I don't get. If the proton CEO was actually raging MAGA, the last thing he should do, strategically, is stoke fires by stirring this up. That’s business 101.

…He must want conservative’s ears for some kind of policy issue, maybe to the detriment of Proton’s competitors. But what?

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[–] tomatol@lemm.ee 52 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Very disappointing that this is the CEO and founder of Proton. I'll be moving my stuff elsewhere and deleting my account this week.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 24 points 11 hours ago

Just canceled my subscription.

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[–] HorikBrun@kbin.earth 249 points 14 hours ago (26 children)
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[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 46 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Sure, yeah, anti-big tech.

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[–] Ballissle@lemmy.zip 33 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

Ffs. I just switched a ton of stuff over to proton. Hopefully this is an individuals view and not that of the company as a whole.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 18 points 9 hours ago

Nope, unfortunately. See official response posted above.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 10 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I'm in the same boat. What a shit show.

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[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 67 points 13 hours ago (14 children)

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism, and that applies to tech. I pay for Proton and this is disappointing af but not shocking. Corporations and wannabe billionaires always fold to fascism.

Gonna start looking around at alternative email services to consider but I use my Proton email everywhere, so switching away is going to suck.

[–] muix@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 7 hours ago

When you register a domain, you own the whole name-space of that domain:

All possible sub-domains of your domain are yours.
All possible URLs on the domain are yours.
All possible email addresses on the domain are yours.

On your domain, you are also free to choose the linked services such as web, email calendar etc. If you are not satisfied with one provider, you are free to switch to another one at your own convenience.

https://migadu.com/freedom/

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 21 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (13 children)

Biden's pick Lina Khan deserves all the credit for aggressively prosecuting anti-competitive practices. However, Gina Slater looks like someone capable of continuing that work and a legitimate admirer of Lina Khan. Yes there are ties to Vance and the FTC office is likely to end up beholden to the egomaniac in chief. So the whole "little man" thing aside (that's baloney), that's one person that's not a shit stain out of all the shit stains in the incoming cabinet.

Look Lemmy, you're welcome to choose what you want in your life and what you don't. But being too rigid with letting stupid opinions of a project's founder cause you to reject everything, would have you miss the big-picture benefits of having such a project exist. If you look at this Lemmy development co-leader's opinions on transgenderism, are you going to stop using this software that lets you converse on an LGBTQ+ safe-space instance with no involvement on a social level from said developer/founder?

[–] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Vance, the U.S. vice president-elect, has said antitrust officials should take a broader approach to antitrust enforcement, and praised the work of Federal Trade Commission Chair Lina Khan

Reading this confuses me greatly because republicans, especially Jim Jordan from what I remember, have been harassing and preventing Lina Khan and the FTC from taking action against big corporations.

Hell of she is doing such a great job, why fire her and replace her with a snake whose views are the antitheses of Khan's outlook.

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 hours ago

The flaw was to assume there's a connection between what Republicans say and what they do.

[–] ShotDonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

No, it's not only one person in the board. They confirmed their stance via their official Mastodon account. https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

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[–] sakuragasaki46@feddit.it -2 points 3 hours ago

If for "little guys" Proton CEO intends minors, we are cooked 🤦

Also, top 10 anime plot twists

[–] kaamkiya@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 hours ago

Well, that's a platform I'm leaving now.

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 90 points 14 hours ago (58 children)

Let's not get carried away. The scope of the comment is pretty narrow if you read it closely. This is one member of a 5-person board that also includes Tim Berners-Lee. The foundation structure is also a protection against abuses.

[–] ShotDonkey@lemmy.world 81 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yes you are right, and no you are not. It is concerning and something to stay vigilent about in the upcoming times.

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[–] sasquash@sopuli.xyz 26 points 12 hours ago (2 children)
[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 24 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

...and you're out. That's enough for me.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Dude got weird "Libertarian" vibes:

But he's just one of five board members of the Non-Profit that owns Proton AG, not really a doomsday event... yet.

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[–] 7112@lemmy.world 84 points 14 hours ago (6 children)

Sad. The way tech companies are changing stripes, we are about to hit a surveillance state by summer

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