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So Elon gutted Twitter, and people jumped ship to Mastodon. Now spez did... you know... and we're on Lemmy and Kbin. Can we have a YouTube to PeerTube exodus next? With the whole ad-pocalypse over there, seems like Google is itching for it.

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[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

I don't think YouTube is possible peer to peer, Lemmy/Reddit and Mastodon/twitter are mostly text with some images, not too difficult to store and network. YouTube on the other hand has astronomically high costs to store and serve their videos, more hardware than people have to spare for free

[–] arth@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Have a look at tilvids.com. I know of a couple of large YouTubers that crosspost their stuff there, and there are probably more that I don't know about.

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[–] NecoArcKbinAccount@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

Peertube always felt hard to use, and no one has really caught on to it imo.

[–] rowinofwin@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nebula has been quite successful as far as I can tell. A whole bunch of educational YouTubers have moved over or were part of establishing it and honestly it works well. Videos can download to your device, the quality is the same, the app is a tiny bit janky but nowhere near as bad as all the ads etc on the YouTube app, and the cost is actually reasonable and goes in a reasonable share to the creators. I strongly prefer direct access to creators like this and also like on Patreon. Direct support means there is no advertiser in between to demonetise a video or have it taken down because it is controversial. You can't even have a WW2 documentary on YouTube but you can have actual Nazis, but on Nebula you get analysis and history without Nike or Surfshark being reticent to sponsor a video.

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[–] GunnarRunnar@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

Would creators actually move there? Say what you will about YouTube but at least they usually compensate the creators.

[–] tiredofsametab@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wouldn't for the reasons mentioned by others.

There's no monetization; I would have to find, attract, and deal with sponsors on my own.

There's not really much in the way of audience which makes the above harder since I would need numbers/

There's also the whole thing about bandwidth.

Then there's all the sysadmin stuff to do, security updates, etc.

Then there's still the legal and other admin roles, presumably, about DMCA, etc.

I do not have the time for any of that right now.

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[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I see the switch from YouTube will be the final move, because it is has the most hurdles to overcome. Smart people will eventually figure out an efficient way to get things rolling. Fingers crossed it's soon!

[–] Thedogspaw@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Youtube is great as long as you don't read the comments

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[–] mim@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Doubt it, it's expensive to host and creators won't have ways to ways to monetize it as easily as YouTube.

Also, I wouldn't really call the Twitter and Reddit cases "exodus". As much as I would like to see the fediverse succeed, the number of users on mastodon and Lemmy are just a blip on the radar.

I still see the same links on my Lemmy frontage days after they have been submitted, it's far less active than Reddit.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I hate this notion that a platform isn't successful unless it has a billion users. As long as there's a critical mass of people, it's fine. One thing I've realised browsing lemmy for the past week is just how much of my Reddit experience was defined by the same handful of Twitter screenshots and rehosted tiktoks being reposted over and over again like every week.

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[–] holothuroid@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's unlikely. Both Reddit and Twitter speak or at least spoke to people who enjoy a certain image of being anti establishment (in one way or another and whether that's warranted or not). Youtube just doesn't. You can't get more mainstream than Youtube.

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[–] Somewhereunknown7351@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Replacing YouTube is a bad idea

[–] Hovenko@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

I would rather go for reasonable competition. Ideally more than one. I really enjoy nebula for example.

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[–] thoralf@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago

Biggest issues with Peertube so far: Lack of content Lack of an iOS client

[–] Eggyhead@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (5 children)

First I’ve heard of alternatives to YouTube. Do they pay content creators the same or is it just people posting for free there?

[–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago

They are just offering the free service of video hosting. There are no advertisements and no paid accounts, so all they could share are costs, not income. They are not an advertisement/monetarization service.

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[–] Tom_Winter@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago

If Youtube blocks Adblockers, maybe.. but I think ppl will go to Odysse&Co first

[–] pkulak@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Gotta be a way for folks to get paid. Most of the folks I watch on YouTube do it for a living.

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