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[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Banks and pharma comments are for sure trash. Weapons... Also trash. The idea is to dominate and that's what you pay extra for. These are all industries I have personally worked for or my wife has.

The media is going to tell you the truthiest thing that gets clicks for engagement so that's basically true.

This is mostly tin foil hat except the government bit at the bottom that is legit trying to fuck us all (I worked for them too).

[–] Deifyed@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The course of capitalism. Incentives are not aligned with human prosperity

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Right, but the incentives are aligned with the prosperity of individuals who figure out how to use them, so they do. It may look like one group vs another, but it's really each capitalist against everybody else in the world, with a few alliances that are abandoned when they stop working.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

“Just look at us. Everything is backwards, everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, psychiatrists destroy minds, scientists destroy truth, major media destroys information, religions destroy spirituality and governments destroy freedom.”

― Michael Ellner

I have genuinely written that on the wall of an isolation cell in my own blood. I was denied my prescription medication.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Mutually Assured Dominance!

Taken together it really does look like a conspiracy of elites vs commoners, but it's really just elites individually and in small alliances doing what they think will benefit them individually. No elite will support a system they can't personally control. they only take advantage of parts of it that benefit them, and try to create more of those parts. Collectively this makes it look like they're all working together, until some issue comes up that benefits one and hurts another. Then they throw each other under the bus, which sometimes benefits the rest of us.

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago

This smells like "they got a cure for cancer!" FUD.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Not sure, here.

  • bothSides
  • anarchy but yet clean water and hospitals
  • emo

Pick the right theme, and help me out?

[–] orbitz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

What theme? A government can't provide for its citizens without kowtowing to corporate interests? That seems like a narrow view, and maybe these days much more difficult in some countries due to the corporate influence but that just points to corporate interests having too much say in matters, not that the preference is a anarchy.

[–] Internetexplorer@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago
[–] LyingCake@feddit.org 15 points 15 hours ago (18 children)

Oh, come off it! Pharma is keeping us sick, really? Listen to yourself!

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Also, a bank can't just decide to put you in debt, lol. Nor can it keep you in debt if you pay it off.

This is some im14andthisisdeep stuff lol

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago

True but they can use predatory tactics to get people roped in. They can tack on rediculous interest rates and fees..

[–] Internetexplorer@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

Make more profit if you're ill.

Sponsor Macdonald's

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

Have you heard of Perdue Pharmaceuticals, by chance?

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[–] Doll_Tow_Jet-ski@fedia.io 6 points 14 hours ago

And the stupids are going to reduce everything to one-liners

[–] butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world -1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (3 children)

Guys this is kinda crossing the line into conspiracy theory territory and, to be frank, enables the whataboutism on the right. Generalized assertions based on "common sense" aren't insightful or illuminating. Please stop.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Your going to be shit on but true.

It's just like, I get it and I do agree with the spirit of the post, but are we really going to let grandma-Facebook level memes be what this starts off as?

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry miss chinabook(?), I just wanted to help a brand new community that was still empty yesterday. I know this post is low-effort but it was one of many. I'm going to step back so other content can make its way to the top. I look forward to your contributions in making this new lemmy community great.

[–] butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Not a miss and it's a reference to Murray Bookchin, but okay, sorry for not reviving r/iam16andthisisdeep

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

By executive order you, me and all other americans are now female. Sorry I didn't get the reference.

Well... okay that's fair I can't really disagree with that lol.

[–] Loss@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

At some point you will realize you're not considered equal in the eyes of the law or rulers of the country.

When that happens you can join the rest of us in reality, until then please stop helping the enemy lest you get confused for them.

[–] butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Lol okay, enjoy your little Facebook echo chamber then, thanks for making us all look a little less credible

[–] Loss@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

... conforming to whatever billionaires say does not make you credible.

It is a fact the US economy is built on consumer debt, there is more unsecured credit card debt in the US than the rest of the world combined.

It is a fact the FDA directly, explicitly, and knowingly caused the opioid crisis.

[–] butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I agree with you completely, but the meme is making much more sweeping generalizations which are a bad look. It feels less like the substantive arguments in your comments and more like the Tea Party.

[–] Loss@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

It's from shitter or bsky, There's a character limit. It is, however, largely correct.

The tea party had the right words, with the wrong intent, like the Nazi party when they pretended to be socialist. Libertarianism is a socialist ideology, the name was just coopted.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 6 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

The corporate leaders will work to keep their profits up.

If that means keeping us healthy and telling the truth, then that is what they will do.

Bankers thrive off of loans and weapon manufacturers do thrive off of war though.

A sick person want to get healthy, and if a drug can't do that, most people won't buy it.

The media needs trust for people to consume news, truth is a hugely important commodity.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

If a drug makes someone feel better despite not helping with the underlying issue, people will buy it. Even if that drug is known to cause issues. Painkillers is a whole category that does the first part and contain ones that also do the second, some by wrecking your liver, others with addiction.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yes?

I did not say otherwise?

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

A sick person want to get healthy, and if a drug can't do that, most people won't buy it.

You said that. And I think there's a difference between feeling better and getting healthy. Feeling better is more about treating the symptoms while getting healthy is about dealing with the underlying issues causing the symptoms.

Those drugs that target symptoms instead of underlying causes still sell well.

Also Alex Jones built up his empire in part by selling "brain pills" that wouldn't do much other than maybe give you lead poisoning, depending on who his source at the time was. Health shit sells as much on hope as it does on results, and with the placebo effect on top of it, people can strongly believe that something that hurts them is actually helping them.

[–] glowing_hans@sopuli.xyz 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)

I do not know if you mean this serious? I mean an anarchhocapitalist believes all these things you stated to be the truth. Maybe except this:

the media needs trust for people to consume news, truth is a hugely important commodity.

As selling the truth can be profitable as a propaganda tool against enemies in the short term.

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[–] forrgott@lemm.ee 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

Keeping us healthy and telling the truth will never maximize profits.

If the drug can help, the sick person will buy it. If it cures you when the pharmaceutical company can sell one that treats, but does not cure you, then they will not sell you the cure.

Your "gotcha" is weird and useless.

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

How are any of those statements true?

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

That's the neat part.

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