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[โ€“] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

25 year old Windows programs work better in Linux with wine than in Windows ๐Ÿคฃ

[โ€“] klangcola@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago

Wine is the most stable ABI on Linux ๐Ÿ˜‚

[โ€“] KuudereEnthusiast@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it got so extreme i installed wine on wsl to run a few old programs because windows 11 dropped support for some libraries

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[โ€“] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What a fuckin lie. Can't play some Windows 7 games on Windows 10 or above but on Linux it works.

[โ€“] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will always remember Battle For Middle Earth working first try on Linux after spending hours fighting with it on Windows

[โ€“] fossilesque@mander.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

That game is a classic.

[โ€“] IuseArchbtw@feddit.de 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Linux gang has entered the chat

[โ€“] Shady_Shiroe@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Linux:

User: Can you install this 50 year old program?

Linux: it's already installed

[โ€“] version_unsorted@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

User: Linux can you install this software from this ancient obscure operating system?

[โ€“] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No you can't because the dependency doesn't exit anymore.

[โ€“] Johanno@lemmy.fmhy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Then compile it from the sources

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[โ€“] eltimablo@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Have you heard to Good Word of our Lord and Savior, AppImage?

Grep is from 1973 so yeah.

[โ€“] HoloPengin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Tfw compatibility for some old Windows programs and games is better in Wine than in modern Windows

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[โ€“] gun@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

In my experience, Windows can install a 25 year old program, but it won't work

[โ€“] CrownCrafter@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Windows is def better than Mac for backwards compatibility, but nah dude it's not even close to perfect. Ive had better luck using wine for old windows programs

[โ€“] vis4valentine@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (8 children)

GNU/Linux:

  • Can I install this 20yo software?
  • Is already installed.
[โ€“] tubbadu@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can I install this 20yo software?

user is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported

SUDO Can I install this 20yo software?

Is already installed.

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[โ€“] Slartibartfast@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you do echo "3 6 * p" | dc in a terminal it'll give you the result of 3x6, but the dc part of that is software that was written probably between 1969 and 1971.

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[โ€“] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

how about this driver for an obscure 20yo laptop's touchpad?

already installed

[โ€“] Duamerthrax@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Had this exact scenario with an old flatbed scanner. No win10 drivers and it never had mac drivers. Ran without issue in up to date Mint.

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[โ€“] trent@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

there is nothing to do

[โ€“] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Old Linux software usually has to be completed from source anyway (uhh the effort) which essentially makes it future proof

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[โ€“] tarneo@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

More like "Installing... Do you want avast or X or Y installed along with it?" No thanks, I very much prefer Linux package managers.

[โ€“] AlexTheLost@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gonna be honest, this isn't my experience, a lot of stuff just doesn't work on Windows anymore

I can get those same programs to work fairly easily on linux though using Wine/Proton

[โ€“] Gerryflap@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Not my experience. I've had multiple old games and an old printer that just straight up didn't work under Windows. On Linux however (using wine for the windows exe's) it usually does run. Sometimes it does require some googling, but there's usually someone who tried it before.

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[โ€“] quazar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The third panel of that is LINUX: Can you install this 25 year old program?

It was already installed on there.

[โ€“] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Cat is so old it should be dead by now... Guess it's got nine lives ๐Ÿ˜…

I hear a lot about Windows backwards compatibilyty, but i don't think it has ever actualy worked for me. Every time i tried to install a program meant for anything older then win7/win10 i get some cryptic error and end up using a VM.

[โ€“] Engywuck@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)
  • "Can you run on this 20 y/o piece of hardware?"
  • Linux: "hold my beer!"
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[โ€“] GreyHouseElf@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And yet somehow, it's also complete garbage. I've tried installing win10 while having 11 drives connected to my system. Guess what, the win10 installer can't count past 10, so instead of installing to drive 11 like it should have, it installed to drive 1. Because no one would ever use more than 10 drives in their system I guess. Drive 1 was my current OS and got nuked hard, even my backups couldn't get it to work again.

[โ€“] duncesplayed@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah Windows compatibility is both amazingly impressive and complete garbage.

Need to run something from 1992? Sure! No problem!

Need to run something from 2021? Sorry, no compatibility for that old API.

[โ€“] BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sadly exactly that is the reason that windows is just a bunch of spaghetti code XD

[โ€“] BlueDiamond@rammy.site 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is spaghetti code? (Sorry am non coder)

[โ€“] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Basically, spaghetti code is code that is poorly written or implemented.

Most of the time, companies can use newer technologies to replace or fix this bad code, but if the spaghetti code is still needed or in use, then it becomes too difficult or expensive to fix. So we end up with old, badly written and inefficient code and are stuck with it indefinitely.

Good example here being Windows. Some programs from over 20 years ago will still run on Windows 11, many companies rely on these older programs and Microsoft knows this. However, the systems written to allow these programs to run in Windows is usually seen as being bad code since it lacks a lot of the modern techniques programmers use to make things easier to work with and maintain over time. But these old systems cannot be changed or updated since they will then not work with those 20 year old programs that many companies rely on.

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Linux, can you install this 70 year old program? It's already running, bro

[โ€“] SternburgExport@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah it sure can install these programs but thei'll either run like dogshit or not at all.

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