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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/53805638

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[–] AfricanGrey@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good. Nvidia has grown greedy and fat.

[–] buttfarts@lemy.lol 3 points 1 day ago

Time to harvest its succulent body meat from within its carapace

[–] RxBrad@infosec.pub 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Okay, cool...

So, how much longer before Nvidia stops slapping a "$500-600 RTX XX70" label on a $300 RTX XX60 product with each new generation?

The thinly-veiled 75-100% price increases aren't fun for those of us not constantly-touching-themselves over AI.

[–] neatobuilds 7 points 1 day ago

After this they will stop and start slapping a $1000 label

[–] wookiepedia@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

This has nothing to do with DeepSeek. The world has run out of flashy leather jackets for Jensen to wear, so nvidia is toast.

[–] cheeseburger@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ROFL 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 eat shit, Huang

[–] jdeath@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

i made some good money on that inevitable rebound. 30% gains in a day! thanks Huang

[–] drascus@sh.itjust.works 72 points 2 days ago (32 children)

Okay seriously this technology still baffles me. Like its cool but why invest so much in an unknown like AIs future ? We could invest in people and education and end up with really smart people. For the cost of an education we could end up with smart people who contribute to the economy and society. Instead we are dumping billions into this shit.

[–] FightToAdapt@slrpnk.net 59 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Because rulling class got high on the promise that they could finally eliminate workers as a cost and be independent from us.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 44 points 2 days ago

For the cost of an education we could end up with smart people who contribute to the economy and society. Instead we are dumping billions into this shit.

Those are different "we"s.

[–] sudo42@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Tech/Wall St constantly needs something to hype in order to bring in “investor” money. The “new technology-> product development -> product -> IPO” pipeline is now “straight to pump-and-dump” (for example, see Crypto currency).

The excitement of the previous hype train (self-driving cars) is no longer bringing in starry-eyed “investors” willing to quickly part ways with OPM. “AI” made a big splash and Tech/Wall St is going to milk it for all they can lest they fall into the same bad economy as that one company that didn’t jam the letters “AI” into their investor summary.

Tech has laid off a lot of employees, which means they are aware there is nothing else exciting in the near horizon. They also know they have to flog “AI” like crazy before people figure out there’s no “there” there.

That “investors” scattered like frightened birds at the mere mention of a cheaper version means that they also know this is a bubble. Everyone wants the quick money. More importantly they don’t want to be the suckers left holding the bag.

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[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Good. Let's keep this ball rolling.

[–] endofline@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Try asking DeepSeek something about Xi Jinping. "Sorry, it's beyond my current scope' :-) Wondering why even it cannot cite his official party biography :-)

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

For what it's worth, I wouldn't ask any chatbot about politics at all.

[–] RealM__@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You wouldn't, because you are (presumably) knowledgeable about the current AI trend and somewhat aware of political biases of the creators of these products.

Many others would, because they think "wow, so this is a computer that talks to me like a human, it knows everything and can respond super fast to any question!"

The issue to me is (and has been for the past), the framing of what "artifical intelligence" is and how humans are going to use it. I'd like more people to be critical of where they get their information from and what kind of biases it might have.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You wouldn’t, because you are (presumably) knowledgeable about the current AI trend and somewhat aware of political biases of the creators of these products.

Well, more because I'm knowledgeable enough about machine learning to know it's only as good as its dataset, and knowledgeable enough about mass media and the internet to know how atrocious 'common sense' often is. But yes, you're right about me speaking from a level of familiarity which I shouldn't consider typical.

People have been strangely trusting of chat bots since ELIZA in the 1960s. My country is lucky enough to teach a small amount of bias and media literacy skills through education and some of the state broadcaster's programs (it's not how it sounds, I swear!), and when I look over to places like large chunks of the US, I'm reminded that basic media literacy isn't even very common, let alone universal.

This is the way.

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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Try asking ChatGPT if Israel is committing genocide and watch it do the magical Hasbara dance around the subject.

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

I did. The answer it gave is clear and concise with no judgement. Instead it talks about the argument on both sides. Not the "magical Hasbara dance" you promised me.

Try asking Deepseek about Taiwan independence and watch how it completely ignores all (/think) and gives a false answer.


The question of whether Israel is currently committing genocide is a subject of intense debate among international organizations, scholars, and political entities.

Accusations of Genocide:

Amnesty International's Report: On December 5, 2024, Amnesty International released a report concluding that Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip. The report cites actions such as killings, causing serious bodily or mental harm, and deliberately inflicting conditions calculated to bring about the physical destruction of Palestinians in Gaza.

UN Special Committee Findings: In November 2024, a UN Special Committee found that Israel's methods of warfare in Gaza are consistent with characteristics of genocide, noting mass civilian casualties and widespread destruction.

Scholarly Perspectives: Israeli historian Amos Goldberg has stated that the situation in Gaza constitutes a genocide, pointing to the extensive destruction and high civilian death toll as indicative of genocidal intent.

Counterarguments:

Israeli Government's Position: The Israeli government asserts that its military actions in Gaza are aimed at dismantling Hamas, a group designated as a terrorist organization by multiple countries, and emphasizes efforts to minimize civilian casualties.

Criticism of Genocide Accusations: Organizations such as the American Jewish Committee (AJC) reject the genocide label, arguing that Israel's actions are self-defense measures against Hamas and do not meet the legal definition of genocide.

Legal Definition of Genocide:

According to the UN's 1948 Convention on Genocide, genocide includes acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group. These acts encompass killing members of the group, causing serious bodily or mental harm, and deliberately inflicting conditions calculated to bring about the group's physical destruction.

Conclusion:

The determination of whether Israel's actions constitute genocide involves complex legal and factual analyses. While some international bodies and scholars argue that the criteria for genocide are met, others contend that Israel's military operations are legitimate acts of self-defense. This remains a deeply contentious issue within the international community.

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[–] TheOakTree@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

True, but one is a situation, and the other is a person. I didn't know that the existence of Xi Jinping was a controversial idea in China...

[–] Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago

The official hosting of it has censorship applied after the answer is generated, but from what I heard the locally run version has no censorship even though they could have theoretically trained it to.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

It's easy to mod the software to get rid of those censors

Part of why the US is so afraid is because anyone can download it and start modding it easily, and because the rich make less money

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[–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 51 points 2 days ago (29 children)

I'm so happy this happened. This is really a power move from China. The US was really riding the whole AI bubble. By "just" releasing a powerful open-source AI model they've fucked the not so open US AI companies. I'm not sure if this was planned from China or whether this is was really just a small company doing this because they wanted to, but either way this really damages the western economy. And its given western consumers a free alternative. A few million dollars invested (if we are to believe the cost figures) for a major disruption.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 35 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I should really start looking into shorting stocks. I was looking at the news and Nvidia's stock and thought "huh, the stock hasn't reacted to these news at all yet, I should probably short this".

And then proceeded to do fuck all.

I guess this is why some people are rich and others are like me.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's been proven that people who do fuckall after throwing their money into mutual funds generally fare better than people actively monitoring and making stock moves.

You're probably fine.

I never bought NVIDIA in the first place so this news doesn't affect me.

If anything now would be a good time to buy NVIDIA. But I probably won't.

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