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Like if they die with braces, a metal retainer, earrings, a gold tooth, a pacemaker, et cetera.

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[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 98 points 11 months ago (13 children)

The metal doesn't change. It's still there since it doesn't rely on the host living for existence.

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[–] Lober@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 11 months ago (2 children)

By this point, Phase II will initiate as the metal bits reorganize themselves into a lining along your spine. They will take over control of your corpse for the following months, synthetically reanimating you. Nothing can stop your flesh from discolouring and rotting slowly, however. Eventually, the metal ennards will absolve themselves of your flesh vessel as it no longer suits their purposes, and control is returned to you once more; although your skin may by this point have discoloured into a shade of purple.

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

The spirit of comments in this community ought to be helpful to OP.

Your comment is absolutely hilarious but OP didn't come here for a laugh.

[–] Harpsist@lemmy.world 51 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Not stupid answer :

After cremation - all metal artifacts are given back to the family should they want them.

I hope my kids take the titanium from my spine.

[–] BloodSlut@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

they better! that shit ain't cheap

[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Titanium scrap value is pretty low. It takes a lot of energy to recycle it so new titanium is typically used

[–] pg_sax_i_frage@lemmy.wtf 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

if they do end up keeping it, there are artists metalworker, that will agree to turn things like that into custom art and things, if requested. edit:link to one: https://www.titanium-implant-jewelry.com/titanium-implant-jewelry-designs.html

There one in the netherland , I think it is, that offers the service.(they also accept and work with meral that was removed when yiu were still alive, through surgery for example). There seem to be some beautiful examples.

... So, that might be of intrest of intrsst, when writing a will, and to whomever you end up passing that metal to, as a n option, and anlther resin to hold onto those metallic artefacts and keepsakes.

[–] TheYear2525@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Before the human begins to decompose, the essence of the pacemaker leaves its plastic housing (the “accidental properties” of the device) and goes to a realm outside of space and time to forever keep the pace of the Great Heart for which it was ultimately created. The human, meanwhile, is eaten by worms.

[–] Izzgo@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago

That's a delightful answer. My wife, who got a pacemaker this past spring, laughed out loud. Thank you!

[–] AlysonFaithGames@kbin.social 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So a pacemaker will keep going even if the person no longer has brain activity. So a strong magnet is swiped over the chest to turn it off. Not sure what they do with it after that, though

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 15 points 11 months ago

It's this kind of irresponsibility that leads to a zombie apocalypse.

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I believe they have to remove it before burying/cremating them

[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

My grandfather died with a bullet in his foot that had been there for about 40 years. He was cremated and there was nothing left of the bullet.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

In cremation, the metal is picked up either by hand or magnets and recycled. This is because the bones need to be grinded into "ashes" and they can't do that with metal in it.

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Lead melts at such a low temperature that it will vaporize long before the body is reduced to ash.

[–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I didn't believe you. So I looked it up. I had no idea how hot cremation was. What a waste of energy.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I learned this listening to true crime podcasts. Killers often try to burn bodies but it doesn't work because you need an actual furnace to reduce a body down to ash.

[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 2 points 11 months ago

There's an episode of Nathan For You where he tries to test if a pizza oven will cremate a body but he gave up after a few hours lol

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It can be seen that way. Neil deGrasse Tyson agrees with you. OTOH, it’s a way to conserve cemetery space and reduce the environmental impact of graveyards.

[–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but cremation isn't the only other alternative.

[–] BallsInTheShredder@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Blast my body out into the ocean and let the fish eat me

Or, I like the idea of becoming a tree, where they put you in a bag beneath a tree and plant it so the roots will absorb.. whatever is left that they possibly can, I think that's the coolest (imo) way to go and would like to somehow become a tree.. don't want to be reincarnated as an animal, nature is brutal.

Cat maybe...

[–] pg_sax_i_frage@lemmy.wtf 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

*... I think that’s the coolest (imo) way to go and would like to somehow become a tree… "

trees. are. cool.( literally a and metaphorically.). Having your posymoryem body, turned into a tree, is a relly cool option, in my opinion. Good thing is that a it's pretty widely avalable and doable too, in many places. 💀🌱 🌳 🌳🌲🌳🌲🌲🌱

Heres some resources that might be helpful with planning for that tree, aka green or natural, burial, ahead of time (and ensuring that thise wishes are carried out later) , if you haven't allready: https://www.orderofthegooddeath.com/resources/green-burial/ and https://www.greenburialcouncil.org/interactive-maps.html

and to metión green burials in another jurisdiction, , http://www.naturaldeath.org.uk/index.php?page=find-a-natural-burial-site

Hopefully some of that may be helpful, or intresting. green. burials. subject.

💀🌱🌳 🌳🌲🌳🌲🌲🌱

[–] BallsInTheShredder@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Thanks for sharing a branch from your knowledge tree!

That was a (bad) pun, tr-hee hee!

But really, I can't wait to become a tree so I can throw apples at tin people.

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[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 2 points 11 months ago

That's what we thought, but when we asked to keep the bullet we were told it was reduced to ash with everything else.

Not a full answer, but some interesting info about metals and cremation https://collier-law.com/blog/cremation-what-happens-to-the-metals-in-your-body/

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Where I live, removeable items like braces, jewellery, et cetera are considered 'personal effects' and will be handed over to next of kin when they claim the body for funeral arrangements. Integral things like fillings, artificial joints, etc. are generally left inside. There are cases where they have to be removed or will be left behind (eg. cremation), but they're still considered human remains and have to be disposed of properly.

There are also cases where things can't be cremated or left in the body. I'm thinking specifically about pacemakers powered by radioactive isotopes. Medical authorities will take charge of those.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

What can corrode will corrode.

Gold or the peacemaker will not. They will only ever be destroyed / dissolved / ... in geological timescales. So when that part of the crust is pushed under another one. Or it is erroded away in a river. Or hot, geothermal water dissolves it. Etc.

Otherwise it will stay put and not change.

[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Humans from Scadrial who die with enough metal in them may become ghosts

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

may become ghosts

....and if the metal happens to be gold, then these are the "Golden Ghosts".

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 3 points 10 months ago

It was the day my grandmother exploded.

[–] big_bee@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Depends on whether or not they know Jesus. If they know Him they go to heaven.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Unless they are a wizard, in which case Death himself must escort them to the next plane and can't just send a representative.

[–] rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not reallly and answer, but there is a Stephen King short story and movie where a plane goes thru a time warp, and only the people who are asleep survive. The other people are gone entirely, except for the metal things they were wearing or had in them.

It's a good one!

[–] favrion@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I'm sorry, but 763 pages is epic territory.

[–] CarlsIII@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago

They get a Viking funeral

[–] pg_sax_i_frage@lemmy.wtf 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

We'll, if the peron had access to and chose, for their future postmortem body, to undergo the disposition option of 'natural organic reduction' (also known as terramation, also known as body composting), then Ive read and heard that: any implants that contain batteries or are highly radioactive (both likely or certain to also contain metal) will be removed early on, by a professional, for safety reasons.

Other metal(, like a metal hip, or bolts,), are typically left in the body, and stay jt thought the internment ceremony, (incidentally a future customer certainly can request that a particular song or playlist be played during their internment, , and several reportedly have opted for specifically metal (genre) music to be played at this point. 🎶),

and (continuing) any metal parts then go into the pod along with the wood chips and the straw and and oxygen and everything else, they stay with the rest of the bidy the 'beehive' through the first four weeks or thereabouts, and through the peak periods of intense heat.

Then, towards the latter stages, they are eventually screened removed, using a screen. similar to that used in many other conventional composting methods. Any metal prices are returned to friends or family of they wish to keep them, or otherwise they are recycled. ♻️

The final results of the process are tested by an independent lab, for a variety of factors. One of these is heavy metal content. The results must come back, as a legislative requirement, at a heavy metal cintkentbtahtad below a specified level, before the process can finish, and the terramated remains can be returned. So far there seems to have been no issue with being below the limit.

Anyway, that seems to be the process, for those that die with metal, and who choose to have their body sent to this particular funeral services provider. (recompose). For more on that you can red more at www.recompose.life , they have a faq section.

I belive it's a similar process for other providers of n. o. r services, and(in some ways) for some alkaline hydrolisys and cremation servjices.

maybe that helps answers the question, at least in some part.

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