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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago
[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I find youtube to be the hardest one on this list

[–] Shape4985@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Agreed as peertube is great the creators i enjoy to watch dont upload there

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Youtube is the only one on this list that I use and I only use it with an ad blocker.

[–] Brutticus@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

has anyone tried Friendica? is it devoid of people?

[–] LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

That’s ironic

[–] nyamlae@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The UI is fucking awful and way too complex, so it's difficult to get anything done. I've tried two different instances and found them both to be unusable.

It's a shame because Friendica is way more powerful than most Fediverse platforms -- they leverage way more of ActivityHub's potential, such as a system for calendars + events. But the UI needs to get sorted out before it's ready for mass adoption.

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago (4 children)

PeerTube appears to be completely devoid of content

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 1 points 3 hours ago

Take a look at the 2 pinned posts in this community: https://lemmy.wtf/c/peertube

[–] excitatory@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

no, there's tons of furries, like the rest of the fediverse. >.>

[–] nowherepenguin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

It feels pretty quiet here. At least going by active posts. They're often the same for a while. New is a bit better. Unless it's my expectations that are wrong?

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[–] teri@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 1 day ago (11 children)

I support the cause in general but: Signal is not federated at all. It may seem like a decent alternative to WhatsApp but is it really? It still falls under the same US jurisdiction. Let's say the US gov starts agressively prosecuting dissidents and certain minorities (they already do): can and should we still use signal in this case? I don't think so. Sadly i can't name a much better alternative. Maybe matrix. But it has other issues.

[–] Bazoogle@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Signal is open source. They absolutely do always comply with US warrants. They have never provided any information to US law enforcement, because they can't access it. They literally have no way of accessing the information contained inside the texts. The most they could provide is metadata, but they currently aren't collecting that. I also think if they started, it would not work well for their user base. You can see all their requests for information, and the responses they gave, here: https://signal.org/bigbrother/

[–] teri@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago

I really hope they stand strong. We need some influential entities standing up to the shit going on. Sadly, given the current situation in the US I have to assume that the Trump gang will sooner or later try to crack down on Signal. Who knows, forcing them to give out meta data to identify dissidents etc.

At least the open-source app makes me hope that there's a little less nasty things they can do than Facebook/Whatsapp.

[–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Jurisdiction is not that important. Even if it was in Switzerland it'd have to comply with international law enforcement and warrants. The key is that sure Signal is obliged to give out whatever data it has, but the point is that it doesn't have much useful data to give. It's the same as Mullvad, and a far smarter approach than "lol we just gonna ignore the warrant huhuhu look at us we host somewhere in Shitzerfuck" (oh btw "We are in X country which is not in N eyes" is just marketing).

Oh and btw the same goes for instances of the fediverse (which are ran by volunteers you need to trust), and if they don't comply and the US government really wants to break into them they probably will find a way. Doesn't even need some complicated backdoors or anything it just needs to find an OPSEC slip-up, do some social engineering, arrest someone or at worst find a bug to exploit, and I can guarantee that unless you have some serious security wizards running your instance you're not beating the FBI there and if the FBI is really persistent and focused on you for some reason then the wizards won't be enough you need state actors.

If your threat model actually includes the US government (aka you're actually in danger and not some paranoia or just-in-case situation, be realistic with yourself) and there's credible threats you may be targeted by it or other governments then you're probably going to be using tor, briar, all that jazz, and wouldn't be on lemmy. If you're just some guy who just needs to message your family and shit Signal is perfectly fine, I can tell you that unless you're a serious threat to the government they won't waste resources cracking down ways to capture you via signal or whatever you use that is even somewhat secure (so no telegram, no WhatsApp, no messenger, etc), even if you're a minority or activist, if not because you're not important enough then because they have other easier ways to do it.

Edit: oh and btw Signal was banned in Ruzzia (a country way more authoritarian than the US currently is) because the FSB couldn't crack it so that goes to show it is pretty secure.

[–] nyamlae@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

(oh btw "We are in X country which is not in N eyes" is just marketing)

Why do you say this? There are real data-sharing agreements between the Eyes.

Doesn't even need some complicated backdoors or anything it just needs to find an OPSEC slip-up

This already happened with kolektiva, unfortunately, but from what I hear they've since strengthened their security.

[–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago
  1. There's data-sharing agreements with more than just the N eyes countries
  2. If there's an international warrant for that data the company is obliged to comply regardless

The only countries in which n° 2 doesn't apply for the US are countries you really don't want your data in either.

In short, however: if a government really wants your data it will find a way to get it no matter where you store that data, so the best thing is to simply not store that data at all, Mullvad and Signal don't do that.

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[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

This is such a beautiful guide!

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Why didn't I hear about this until the day of?

[–] csm10495@sh.itjust.works 59 points 1 day ago (4 children)

How is signal considered part of the fediverse?

[–] Bazoogle@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

It's not federated, but it is an open source secure texting alternative.

[–] excitatory@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

It should be something like SimpleX

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[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (6 children)

instead of switching ive mostly just been ditching entirely. I need less time interacting with internet people.

literally the only thing on this list im still using is facebook messenger, for my work colleagues. and youtube. everything else ive migrated (reddit-lemmy), or abandoned and torched

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[–] RedSnt@feddit.dk 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I was already on Mastodon by just having a Vivaldi (the chromium browser) account, and it's just lovely I've spent most of the day setting up lemmy, even though I joined feddit.dk 2 years ago, it's only just now I'm taking it seriously.
And, while not related to the fediverse per se, I switched to linux a year ago.
The only service that's hard to drop/switch away from is Youtube imo.

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[–] Undaunted@discuss.tchncs.de 94 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Unfortunately, the switch from YouTube to PeerTube has not worked for me so far. I can't find a decent instance (not full of right-wing/conspiracy content) with interesting stuff that also allows me to make an account.

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