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[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.world 37 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It's cool, but buying produce from your neighbors is also cool. Strong communities thrive together

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[–] Woht24@lemmy.world 96 points 1 day ago (32 children)

Why do they have to be black? America is bizarrely obsessed with race, I've never seen anything like it both in person and on the internet.

[–] Revonult@lemmy.world 16 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (4 children)

I would prefer knowing my money is going to people who have been systematically disadvantaged for this nation's entire history.

I suppose your post could imply other minorities could be included but the way I read your comment gives off big WLM energy.

Edit: spelling

[–] prosp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

Dude this is discrimination also. It's like why do I have to pay for things that my gparents have done? This brings me to other questions such as how long do you will be "systematically disadvantaged"? I have seen those cases with my eyes: Afro has their college fees paid and they got paid for studying. he/her reproved. Do state retired the help? NO. They just had a talk with he/her and keep with aid. Meanwhile my mixed friend had to put gmother home as warrant to get a loan in order to pay the stupid college. I got enough of it.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Because they were kept poor, imprisoned, and abused until at least 1965. So the kids born in the 1950's had the first real chance to go to college. In reality though red lining continued right up into the 1980's, making sure black people couldn't get access to services and jobs because they were physically out of reach from the housing areas they had been pushed into decades prior. And job hiring racism still occurs to this day. It was in the 2010's they did a study with applications that differed only by having an "ethnic" name or a "white" name.

So until black people can access the same opportunities as white people there needs to be support. Everyone wants to assume this shit ended in 1865 or 1965 but not only did it not, it's still going on.

[–] prosp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

So why do I have to pay what my ggparents have done to black people? I don't think it works like this. My friend is a good example of discrimination also.

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[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Guy said he wanted to help people so have been and still are supposed and you took that as discrimination? I guess if we don't help everyone all at once we shouldn't help anyone?

[–] prosp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

No, my point is what criteria are using to help? I feel it should be used not because you are black. For me should be done in meritocratic order: First the extremely poor yet good students, second the poor yet good students, third excellent students ON ANY ECONOMIC SITUATION. Not because black or LGBT or because you are women...

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[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 20 points 23 hours ago (12 children)

I still love how everyone acts like America is the only racist country on the planet.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 11 hours ago

Can't say I've ever seen people do that

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 7 points 20 hours ago

We wanted to pretend it was ending ourselves until 2016.

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago

This is like, 50% the value of pissing off people in power.

[–] eyelevel@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Sure, it can seem on the surface like wanting to support people of a particular race is in itself a kind of racism, or at least a situation that emphasizes unfair distinctions.

Unfortunately, race does still matter in America, even if we personally disagree with it or want to ignore it. The health and economic research data make it very clear that people of color in America, especially black people, experience harder lives in almost every category. This is due to both recurring experiences of present-day prejudice and discrimination, as well the inter-generational impacts of wealth inequality and psychological trauma.

You might already know about this, but redlining is one example of the way that patterns of discrimination can creates a systemic effect, which, in turn, can impact the physical and financial effects on a family across time. These kinds of systemic effects can then make it harder for current generations of these families to recover and live safe lives today though, we personally might celebrate that the policy doesn't exist anymore, and even though we personally might say that we don't support people acting like that anymore.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining

No one really has to do anything, but some people might choose to support groups of people or organizations who they think might have experienced similar kinds of hardships in their families, and might be glad to have a way to try to do something different with their money than give it to another multinational corporation every time.

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