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[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only one that does is for an entry level position that undervalues your salary by $20k.

But hey! At least we get to start paying for our loans again, and in a time where market prices for products have gone up 25-50%! I didn't want to be a homeowner, have children, or worry about managing a savings account anyway! I'm proud that I'll be working well into my 70s with no hope of retirement in sight! That just means I get to contribute more! So glad our overlords decided I should be a productive member of society instead of some freeloader weighing down the system!

[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not trying to justify companies underpaying entry devs and the pay sucks, I get it. It's not a good situation. I do think you can make the most out of the situation by getting a shit paying job to get your foot in the door. Work like a year and then hop to a better job now that you have some experience on your resume.

[–] Earnest@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I didnt even finish my course but the company I worked for OJT took me in anyway. Now Im their main System Administrator.

Experience is a lot more valuable than that degree. Its just gonna be a piece of paper once you get hired.

[–] Jamie@jamie.moe 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In my experience, nobody cares about experience. They care who you know. I came out of college with several years of experience dealing with Windows and Linux servers, and run Linux as a full time OS at home. Nobody cared.

My friend in the military has a Senior Engineer looking to set him up as a developer at Microsoft once he leaves the Army, and he had to ask me what language/IDE he should start learning to code with.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

Who you know > experience > education

[–] clever_fox@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

Well, it does not open any extra, but in my country when I graduated w/o the degree many doors which were already opened closed on you.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 7 points 1 year ago

I did this graphic based on information from the statistics department of the government of Brazil

On th x axis is the number of years of study, and the y axis the monthly minimum salaries, on yhe values the amount of people who responded and what category of the two it belongs. The graphic dosen't really show us something like unemployment rate, bug it shows a clearly positive correlation between years of study and income. Pretty sure this is repeated everywhere, not only in Brazil.

Hey, look on the bright side. You've also involuntarily entered eternal indentured servitude in order to pay interest on your student loan debt so that the federal government can make money off of your daring gambit to pursue higher education.

No, I'm not bitter, why do you ask?

[–] TooMuchDog@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That depends a lot on what your degree is and how well you sell it's relevance pst graduation.

[–] Ddubz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Indeed. It has a lot to do with that and about a dozen other things. Degree. Job field. Connections. Experience. Personality.

I have a general comms degree and an MA in digital media. These degrees and my job field are extremely broad, so I have experience in loads of different things. As such, I can apply for any job from digital marketing to public relations to a press officer and have a shot of at least getting an interview. I've never had a shortage of knowing people in my industry who would be willing to write me a letter of recommendation or give me a referral where they work. I've gotten one of my colleagues hired at two separate places that I have been a manager.

But to add on to that, I interview well and have a very relaxed and jovial personality. I work well with others and make friends easily. I can't count how many times there have been interoffice issues where an independent consultant had to come in and mediate or get to the bottom of an HR problem and it would turn out that I'm one of the only people in a division that not a single person had a conflict with.

[–] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Then the University goes: "You wanna teach this same course to another generation of suckers? Great! Let's start with this pyramid shape"

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] WhiteRaven22@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

Metalocalypse always makes my day...

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[–] zanyllama52@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

I get the sentiment here, but "opening doors" is a little more nuanced and complex than earning a college degree in a random subject.

I've seen people with PhDs unable to find work, and people with no degrees at the top of a company.

Life is interesting like that.