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We call on the European Commission to propose a binding legal ban on conversion practices targeting LGBTQ+ citizens in the European Union:

Conversion Practices are interventions aimed at changing, repressing or suppressing the sexual orientation, gender identity and/or gender expression of LGBTQ+ persons.

Such practices, due to their discriminatory, degrading, harmful and fraudulent nature have been qualified as torture by the United Nations, and are currently being banned in a growing number of States.

The EU plays a key role in the protection of fundamental rights and should take actions to fight against all inhuman practices. The Commission should propose a directive adding conversion practices to the list of euro-crimes and/or amend the ongoing directive on equality (2008) to include a ban on these practices.

Furthermore, to fight against the legislative moratorium, the Commission should also enforce a non-binding resolution calling for a widespread ban of conversion practices in the EU.

Finally, we call on the Commission to amend the Victims’ Rights Directive to establishes minimum standards on the rights, support and protection of victims of conversion practices.

All member states should introduce a ban on conversion practices or review their current ones.

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[–] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

There is no need to explicitly ban something that already violates existing laws. If something is classified as torture by the UN, there is no chance that it is legal in any country that recognises and protects human rights.

Those so-called "conversion therapies" should already classify as some kind of assault or coercion, and/or medical malpractise in any reasonable jurisdiction.

[–] solo@slrpnk.net 6 points 6 hours ago

there is no chance that it is legal in any country that recognises and protects human rights.

It looks like there is No ban on conversion therapy in many states in the US, parts of Australia, Sweden and several places in Europe, according to the map on the wiki page Legality of conversion therapy.

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

This is still useful to quickly show ignorant cishets outside eu that it's wrong

[–] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works -2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

I have no idea what kind of newfangled insult "cishet" is, but I'd argue that if you make it a specific crime rather than prosecuting it as an ordinary, already existing crime, you are giving the perpetrators a special status, while in reality, they are just fraudulent quacks who like to assault and coerce people, which is very wrong already.

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 6 points 6 hours ago

Cishet is not an insult?? It's short for cisgender and heterosexual.

If you think 'special status' is a negative call the perpetuators what you think is appropriate. But making it plainly and unambiguously illegal (as opposed to illegal if you think critically about it) is just a positive