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Every time I post criticism of the instance an admin goes nuclear.

https://lemmy.ca/post/26593917

https://vegantheoryclub.org/post/1125134

https://lemmy.ca/comment/14667151

https://vegantheoryclub.org/post/1125134/1730468

https://lemmy.ca/post/21312702/9225643

https://vegantheoryclub.org/post/1095942/1713872

https://vegantheoryclub.org/post/1033788/1695910

Elect: to select by vote for an office, position, or membership. by Merriam Dictionary

I thought voting "doesn't work?" Are you telling his logic isn't even consistent by his own standards.

This is the same instance sheltering the well-known troll Universal Monk.

https://vegantheoryclub.org/post/1129019

The tankies communities quickly collapse when challenged first Hexbear now Vegantheoryclub. It's almost as if their foundation is weak.

I have screenshotted that last part with much pleasure. Have a good life buddy!

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[–] M137@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

The one thing that's been a much worse experience on Lemmy than Reddit or other similar social media is being Vegan, it fucking sucks here. And the anti-vegan bullshit is everywhere on Lemmy, simply mentioning it often feels like you've committed a war crime based on the replies.

To everyone who is part of that: you are shitty people who need to grow the fuck up.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

To be fair to this instance, hosting universalmonk seems to be common. See an exerpt of my blocklist

Also, FuckTankies

[–] DonaldJMusk 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

And what does any of that have to do with OP's rant tho. UM doesn't seem to be involved in any of it, so I don't even know why you al are talking about him/her. Unless Universal Monk is supposed to be one of the people OP is arguing about? I don't know tho, because it looks like just a bunch of rants.

I'm not even sure what OP is upset about.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Aren’t you the person who freaked out awhile ago about horses being slaves or something?

This fits for a !fediblock@lemmy.dbzer0.com like the tankie triad does

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

I'm going to get myself a cup of tea

Reason: unhinged person

[–] nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My first reaction was tldr

But i did read it...im not sure this is saying what you think it does. To me it sounds like you have multiple accounts and are cyber stalking this user and now making an info dump when they are leaving lemmy?

Like everyone needs a hobby but you've picked a weird one.

Can't believe i just wasted my time reading someone's vendetta shitpost

[–] DonaldJMusk 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Yeah, and then the user goes off on a tangent about a user called Universal Monk, who doesn't seem related to the rest of the rant at all. WTF?! This poster sounds like they're just stalking anyone and everyone they don't like.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

"using tanks to suppress Hungarian fascists makes me a tankie???"

Yes, supporting using tanks to suppress Hungarian leftist revolutionaries, the literal event which spawned the term tankie, makes a person a tankie.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't think they were saying they wanted to use tanks to suppress Hungarian fascists. They're saying that they're being accused of wanting to suppress Hungarian fascists (?), just because what they actually said was that they don't like America.

I can't really make head or tail of the whole thing. Just wanted to point out that I think you might have misread that one part.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Ah, that interpretation makes sense. Repeating the canard about Hungarian revolutionaries being fascists, I think, made me interpret it in a less generous light.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 5 points 3 days ago

Yeah, on the overall judgement, I think I agree with you still. I read some of the links. They're off their rocker. I was trying to see about the vote-rigging thing, but I stopped caring before I got to it.

[–] GoldenCow@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

another day and another post by sunshine beaver that is absolute pick-me behaviour

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

While I can't say I know Sunshine personally I do see them comment and post around Lemmy. I don't agree with her all the time but I respect her as a person.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can respect her as a person and still think she's off her rocker.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

I haven't seen anything that would suggest she is off her rocker. Flawed? Quite possibly. However I think we are all mostly human.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Funny how he calls the Hungary protestsers "fascists" and says they were suppressed completely leaving out the fact they were killed by tanks and troops. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Revolution_of_1956

This is the same guy who claims the "taiwanese want to reunify with China and that Ukraine should roll over and let Russia have all the land"

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I think there are malicious people on Lemmy who have learned to exploit tribal boundaries to get people on their side. People claiming to be vegan, or anarchist, or queer are three giant glaring examples of this. Once you've made the claim, you can come out of the gate with whatever bad-faith gibberish serves the purpose you're trying to accomplish, secure in the knowledge that a sizable amount of the people in that same tribe will go to bat for you because you're in the club.

(Also people claiming to be communist.)

I'm not saying that anyone professing to those things is a fake. Most people in all are clearly are being honest about it. I'm just saying that, even if someone's in your tribe, you need to look at what they're actually saying, and that it's okay not to support them even if they are wearing being-on-your-tribe on their sleeve to tempt you into being a good member of the tribe and backing them up on whatever action or belief they are currently about.

Tribalism is the stupidest thing ever. I remember seeing posts about Reddit meetups, advertising something by saying "support them, they're a redditor," etc, like using a given social media site somehow implied trust. It doesn't.

The same is true for political affiliations, gym memberships, or sports team preferences. Someone liking the same thing as you doesn't make them "better" than someone else, it just gives you something to talk about.

Yet look at how many people cite influencers, famous athletes, or politicians for things they have no expertise in. It's dumb. Why don't people think for themselves?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 days ago

Honestly I don't care if someone is a communist. I think it way more important to put critical thought into your beliefs. Don't be a follower or to much of a idealist.

[–] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What in the world is a Mormon Satanist?

Other than that TL:DR...

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Who knows. You probably want to start preemptively blocking UM's accounts now though. He has about 20 or so and several alts so it will take a bit.

[–] DonaldJMusk 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Why would I preemptively block him. He hasn't done anything to me

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Then don't. The similarity of your account is quite remarkable though, so y'all would probably get along quite well.

[–] DonaldJMusk 1 points 42 minutes ago

The similarity of your account is quite remarkable though, so y’all would probably get along quite well.

I looked at his account. I don't se any similarity at all other than he doesn't feel that every post in communites has to be 100 percent pro-democrat.

He likes other points of view. I do agree with him on that. But that's anyone who doesn't worship the dem party like Lemmy does.

Do you all think that every person that posts a conservative point of view is Universal Monk? Cuz you all act like that. lmao

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

None of these really prove they’re a tankie though. Most of these are saying they’re not. Seems dubious.