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Edit: Replaced with Reuters link (Israel National News has a "mixed" factual reporting rating similar to Al Jazeera).

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[-] MrNesser@lemmy.world 37 points 8 months ago

Then they go in on foot to confirm instead of bombing the shit out of it

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

If they blow it up, there's no way to prove they're wrong.

If they go on foot, people are going to ask where the proof is that they were right.

So I'll be very surprised if they ever go in on foot.

[-] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Can't prove them wrong when they murder the journalists.

[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago

If they go in on foot, they're at much higher risk of being murdered by Hamas terrorists. On top of that, people like you will condemn them for going in and raiding a hospital.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

It's murder when it's civilians...

If an invading enemy military force suffers casualties... That's war.

Not exactly complicated

[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago

Those soldiers have families at home that are at risk because of these terrorists. Why should their lives be risked as well because the scummy terrorists use hospitals and civilians as human shields?

[-] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

When an opposing force uses human shields, you aren’t supposed to attack the fucking human shields. You’re supposed to show you value human life and try another way. If you kill the human shields, it’s a war crime.

Especially since everything in Gaza seems to be a “human shield.” You don’t get to just bomb tunnels through a hospital without people calling you a war criminal.

[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Moral dilemmas aside. Killing human shields or collateral is actually not a war crime. Using human shields is. People are throwing around that term without thinking.

[-] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago

I’m not throwing “human shield” around like it’s a defined term. It’s a war crime.

[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I meant the term war crime that you keep referring to everything as. Those civilians are being used as human shields by Hamas. There is no question there.

[-] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I’m not referring to everything as a war crime. Here’s a list of war crimes as defined by the UN: https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/war-crimes.shtml

Hamas committed war crimes by killing civilians, taking hostages, and using human shields. I’ve seen rumors they used sexual violence as a weapon too.

Israel’s use of collective punishment, destroying civilian infrastructure, and cutting off food and water are also war crimes. Israel is probably violating the proportionality standard. (It definitely has in the past.)

[-] 1024_Kibibytes@lemm.ee 15 points 8 months ago

Several soldiers on foot would be a LOT better for the hospital than a missile if that is really all they are looking for, although that doesn't seem to fit with what they've done so far

[-] ArcaneGadget@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago

Seems awfully convenient...

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 8 points 8 months ago

Also sounds exactly like something a terrorist org would do. Both sides seem to be competing for who I should dislike more.

[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Not just would do. It's a known fact with plenty of evidence that Hamas stores and fires rockets from schools and hospitals.

[-] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 9 points 8 months ago

Oh, well, if Israel says . . .

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

This seems awfully familiar.

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