Backdoors for 'good guys' don't existβthis is a shortcut to mass exploitation.
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But they're not the good guys either
Ah yes, for the upcoming Ministry of Love.
Correction. The worst surveillance law in the EU so far
France is a police state in which citizens are all suspects. Cryptography was illegal until 1996 outside of government/military use and it's one of the worst countries for any hobbyist who needs to use radio frequencies, fly stuff around or even mere street photography. This law will make it easier for the government to crackdown on anyone using encrypted messaging as a pretext to arrest them or put them under surveillance.
Note that the current interior minister and his predecessor both are vile fascist scum.
The eventual outcome of this sort of thing is more widespread use of steganographic data storage schemes. We already have plenty, such as ones that make your data look like unused LTS blocks of garbage and code blocks with multiple hidden partitions, so that you can open one block showing pedestrian data and the court unable to prove there are other hidden blocks.
These are technologies that already exist for those people who are really interested preserving their renegade data.
But if I own a business and I don't want my rivals reading my accounting, and open crypto is illegal, I may go stegan whether or not I have secret slush funds.
"Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say"
Snowden
And the things that are perfectly okay today might be the things you want to hide tomorrow. Abortions and pregnancies, thoughts about labor rights or climate, sexual orientation, ...
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I expect many people might read this and think "yep, fair enough, I have nothing to hide and nothing to say" and still not understand why either privacy or free speech are valuable.
It is not different and both are done. If you've met people of that worldview (thieves, relatives of bureaucrats, bureaucrats themselves), they really have nothing to say directly, they talk in subtle (they think) hints and subtle (they think) threats.
TSA officers steal from passengers
This may seem unrelated but it gives a real life physical example on exactly why backdoors shouldn't exist.
First off, fuck the NY post.
Secondly, no, it IS unrelated. An issue with the TSA is not an example of a backdoor. Both are bad things, but it ends there.
A law implementing a back door would be a far more ubiquitous concern than some one off sticky fingers in Florida.
Did the tsa use a backdoor to find out what people had in order to steal it? No. How tf is this dumb take supported.
The little red locks on luggage have a backdoor for the TSA, so yes, they literally used a backdoor to find out what people had and steal it. The reason I brought it up is because people sometimes have a hard time realizing the severity of something unless it's grounded in the real physical world.
Also, chill the f out, man. Sheesh.
Red locks had nothing to do with that story. And they were caught and arrested. It is not related.
How do you think they open the bags?
You don't need a tsa approved lock to open an unlocked bag. Nor a bag that is locked in any other fashion. Which is why this is a contrived connection.
Do you unlock your bags before pushing them through the scanner? I only do it if they ask me to and that only happens directly in front of me. But sure, let's assume bags were fully unlocked and unattended, it's still a case of representatives of a government organization (aka the good guys) with full access to a backdoor showing that they're not to be trusted, which is the entire point I'm trying to make.
I don't lock them to begin with. And I certainly wouldn't purchase a tsa approved lock. Regardless, I was not subject to a law requiring that the non-tsa lock I was using to have a backdoor added. Which is why this is a bad comparison all around.
You are subject to a law requiring the lock you use to have a TSA backdoor added if you travel anywhere the TSA has jurisdiction.
No. I'm not. I've never used that lock and I'm not required to.
Plus, the thieves in this case we're arrested. The French government would not be. This is a terrible comparison, even more so as we move along.
Yes, you are, you can look this up in like 12 seconds. The TSA as a whole was also not arrested. If a random worker in the French government uses the backdoor to spy on people and they're found out, I'm sure they'll be arrested. It really feels like you're just giving the analogy more strength with each comment.
You are not required to use a tsa lock. Take that 12 seconds.
The only thing that can stop a bad guy with access to my private phone data is a good guy with access to my private phone data. /s
They only thing that can stop a bad guy with surveillance fetish is the same bad bad guy with suddenly found exhibitionism fetish. OK, that's not new, see "Enemy of the state" movie.
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It feels like the UK and France are in a competition to see who can steamroller their peoples' rights the fastest.
Isnβt Sweden trying something stupid too?
Yup, they are trying to put a backdoor into signal, even though their military advised against it.
Isn't that the CIA app?
Although not in the same way, the US is leading the charge on that front.
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The government is not your friend, we are ruled by power tripping authoritarian rulers. They are using security and defense as a pretext to abolish your rights. You can solve the narcotraffic problem by simply legalizing drugs, they are going after encryption for something else, they want to control everything and everyone.
Signal, Tuta, Proton. And that Apple bullshit.
This push to know everything about everyone is outrageous, expected, and depressing.
What happened with Signal?
Sweden wants a backdoor. I hope that idiocy is shot down fast.
Ah, I heard about that. I recognized Protonβs and Appleβs self-inflicted bullshit, so I was afraid that Signal might have done something stupid to themselves as well
I don't even really want to ask, but... what happened with Tuta? I know what happened with the other 3.
Tuta would also be required to implement a backdoor in their encryption if this law passes. In this post they've stated they will refuse to do so, because it's not possible.
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