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Murdered by Words

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah I haven't personally known warlords but I've been close enough to know the type and he ain't it. They would be picking bits of him out of their teeth with toothpicks by the end of day one.

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Warlords don't just pay people to respect them They command respect via a combination of loyalty, fear, and rewarding those who follow them. A common cause can help but it isn't required. None of this describes Elon Musk who cuts people loose at the first opportunity, abuses his staff, and looks for every opportunity to underpay them. Most successful corporate executives would do very badly to be honest. They are the exact opposite of real leadership.

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

lol sorry i was confused. i gotcha.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Using Max himself as the guy with warlord potential is kinda weird considering he has passed on the opportunity every time.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

We've seen Mad Max, but what about Reasonable Max, Supply-Side Max or even Opportunistic Max? Or, in this particular case, Grimes-please-call-me Max? That's a whole different story.

[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

"I am setting this country up for anarchy with governance by warlords. "

I wouldn't even pick Elon in a fight with Meal Team 6.

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ladies: warlords will rape, abuse, and kill you. They know nothing but brutality and care nothing about your well-being.

God, I hope I am presented with a national historic news very very soon.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Like, we all joke. But Musk's a carnival barker at heart. He'd fit right in alongside the Colonel Qaddafi and General Butt Naked crowd. The Northern Alliance was overflowing with ego-bloated horn dogs. The Columbian cartels are rife with tin pot business goons.

You could change Noriega or Pahlavi or Bong Bong Marcos out with Elon Musk and nobody would notice a difference. Hell, there's a reason a guy like Milei is bro-ing out Elon every chance he gets. They're the same kind of guy.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You underestimate the atrophy having no financial needs or stress concerning any real aspect of survival can create. If we go back to caveman times, no one that has never experienced a blister on their feet is going to be surviving very long.

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[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Is he suggesting that his actions are bringing about the apocalypse? If so, I agree.

[–] RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Holy hell Elon has a galactically discrepant self-image.

[–] CaptnNMorgan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

None of the women I've dated have enough post apocalyptic potential either. One of them said they would kill themselves if a zombie apocalypse started. It takes a strong person for that, man or woman.

[–] Katrisia@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are you implying suicide is a weak option? I don't believe so. It's not a stronger stance to side with a survival instinct; you could say it's actually the easiest thing to do. It requires nothing more than to exploit our biology (adrenaline, aggression, etc.). Not to downplay the complexity of all of us animals, but it's not extraordinary to behave like that, just as a lion or a rat would do too.

The other option requires something unique to humanity (until now and as far as we know) that is to question our actions, to reflect upon them, to give them a personal value, and to make decisions upon all of this. Few animals commit suicide and probably most do so due to a pathological state and not a philosophical argument behind. To embrace this is very hard; it goes against our body's program.

I won't say it's necessarily stronger, but neither is it weaker. I admire the honesty and bravery of doing such questions.

[–] CaptnNMorgan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Suicide is definitely the weakest option someone can take. Maybe you've never been suicidal, but I have, and that feeling is so strong. It wouldn't feel like anything to end it, just a release. But it takes absolutely everything to keep going.

You may have a point about surviving being instinctual, and therefore someone who is too dumb to even consider suicide I'm any situation, isn't stronger for not having the thought. But I really don't think that's most people. I think most people that would have to struggle to survive an apocalypse, would absolutely be pushing through the urge to end it. Unless all that's left is savages, suicide is weak as hell.

[–] Katrisia@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I guess you're right that it takes an enormous effort to hold on to life in those situations. It reminded me of the book by Viktor Frankl, the one about his observations on who died and who lived while he was in a concentration camp. Man's Search for Meaning. Although I wouldn't say all cases of letting go are weak. Sometimes depressive states are like allergies, an organic reaction to low light, lack of nutrients, etc. But I can now see your point.

The thing I cannot agree with is the ulterior reason. You speak, and probably many people would do too, as if life were an obligation or the right path to follow. As if staying alive was the point, and therefore to submit to the desire to leave or to escape was inherently wrong or mistaken. But there's no mandate to live in my book. Whoever decides to persevere in life has the right to do so, but, to me, it is just as valid to leave because there is no point in being born nor in dying (again, as far as we know) anyway.

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