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Ontario slapping 25% surcharge on U.S.-bound electricity Monday, Ford says
(ici.radio-canada.ca)
And Trump cares that these blue states will be cut off why?
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Maybe a state like NY votes blue in state wide elections, but they vote in a lot of Republicans for the House in districts outside if NYC
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Michigan is a blue state?
No, but the other two are, and New York in particular is a very notable blue state.
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Not enough, it should be 100% and another thing if we have a surplus that we sell, why the fuck is electricity so expensive in Ontario!?
Why is electricity so expensive in Quebec? Because fuck the people that's why 😑
I don't pretend to know all the ins and outs of commerce but I do know Canadians are also getting fucked by Canada. Electricity, lumber, construction materials are artificially expensive as fuck. Since covid the price skyrocketed because of price fixing and no-one did shit and they stated high.
Same with food prices, telecom.... I love Justin standing up to Trump, but it's also true that he's failed protecting the average Canadian. Corporations have run amok and no-one has stood in their way.
It is expensive (the most expensive in North America *) because it is low in fossil fuel generation AND uses a lot of renewables with variable production.
The only way to keep the system stable is to rely on fossil fuel generation outside the jurisdiction to offset the peaks and troughs that happen on short time scales.
Ontario actually pays the bordering states to take away excess energy, and they can do it because their gas fired generation can act in seconds to balance supply and demand.
The power EXPORT from the windmills costs the ratepayers in the province over $1B a year...
Similarly, many of the hydro projects rely on seasonal foreign demand. For example BC produces a lot of extra hydro in summer season, and there is air conditioning demand in California during those months. Its not as if the province can hold that water and use it for heating homes during winter.
(* because of unreliable supplies, large consumers like industry can't actually operate in the province because they cannot get reliable contracts... This is about 1/2 million jobs. This is a big part of how Ontario became a have-not province, actually. I had multiple clients from Ontario's generating sector who told me that they "did not want" to enter power contracts with penalties around outages, so if a car plant loses power they can lose millions per hour, and the power companies didn't want to commit to anything. All things equal, big factories can move to Buffalo NY and pay half the price for Ontario energy... )
Basically, it's expensive because of the costs of remote jurisdiction dependencies and the lack of true self sufficiency.
Since Trump wants to complain about the trade deficit, Canada should cap exports to be equal to imports from the US. Poof no more trade deficit.
Just cut off the oil, that would do it.
Alberta makes all their money off oil, most pipelines dip down into the US because Native groups have a fit whenever pipelines attempt to cross certain provinces. Michigan has the same fit about those pipelines, but that's mostly because ships dropping anchor over the pipelines and the ecological disaster that would occur makes them uneasy. Everyone wants oil, but until the world turns into Minecraft and we learn to send liquids wirelessly, someone's fucked.
It's too bad they can't just do 50% on MAGA households and non voters. Somewhere in NY there is someone who actively campaigned to prevent this and continues to protest and they're getting a 25% price hike anyway.
At least we can target businesses and billionaires more directly, although unlike the average voter they need a lot, lot more pain before they change.
Yeah, you simply can't micromanage policies to effect another country to that granularity. It's why people should think carefully about who they elect to represent their country to the rest of the world. The US elected a criminal to represent them, so they have to expect they're going to feel some pain by their association with that criminal, whether they voted for him or not.
Why are mostly blue states getting punished for shithead? They should be focusing on red states. They’re the ones who voted for this nonsense.
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