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Eventually, an artist will be chosen to transform the bronze bars into a public art installation

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[–] thantik@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Appeasement was a mistake, and we should have imprisoned all of the south.

[–] Jessvj93@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's no way they'd spend the next 150+ years trying to dismantle the government who beat them, from the inside right? Right...?

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Congress passed section 1983 of the Federal Code in 1871. In 1874 an unnamed secretary of Congress "copied" section 1983 from The Congressional Record into The Federal Register. The unnamed secretary illegally revised the law by removing a 16 word clause that outlawed all immunity from prosecution previously given by the states to government officials. This error wasn't caught and reported on until May 15 of this year (2023). In 1982 Harlow V Fitzgerald went in front of The SCOTUS. The 1982 SCOTUS in their closing remarks found it strange that the 1871 Congress would explicitly outlaw all other forms of immunity, but remained "strangely silent" on immunities granted previously at the state level. This decision is what started Qualified Immunity.

Qualified Immunity is explicitly outlawed. Congress never changed the law. The entire government are all complicit, once they are informed that the law was never changed.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We tore down several confederate statues in New Orleans and it was very satisfying. It was “controversial” in the sense that not one actual resident of the city was upset but people in the suburbs were deeply offended. That made it even more fun.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There shouldn't be any statues of American traitors.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Fun fact: for the traitors in question many of them explicitly wrote that they should never be immortalized with statues. Then Woodrow "Southern Revisionist" Wilson needed something to support his "historical research." He not only commissioned many of these statues, he fostered the second founding of the KKK, and segregated the federal government, among many other despicable things to help support Southern Revisionism, which he wrote. IIRC he was also involved in the film "Birth of a Nation." I highly recommend reading a synopsis of that film, unlike Schindler's List, no one should watch Birth of a Nation.

[–] crackajack@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So there is Woodrow Wilson before Trump when it comes to regressive policies.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Woodrow Wilson was the worst president ever.

https://youtu.be/hLiI6kXZkZI?si=McwkXGWjYhtXsHTI

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

And the first person to salute their efforts would be Lee. Dude loathed the idea of there being statues of the confederacy.

[–] crackajack@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Agree with them or not there are people who are upset about these statues of traitors coming down.