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In response to the imposition of new, unjustified US tariffs on EU steel and aluminium imports, the Commission has launched swift and proportionate countermeasures on US imports into the EU.

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[–] Inf_V@kbin.earth 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

it's gonna be a long four years isn't it

[–] DarkWinterNights@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Definitely. But there's learnings to be had here too.

Even if/when stability returns after that (on a 4/8 year basis), we know their governance is now openly bipolar, more than it has ever been; it doesn't care what the facts are, it's base doesn't care what the realities are, just the pretense and if their populist icon is winning.

You can't go back to trusting them as a center stage participant anymore, because in 4-8 years, you just get caught with your pants down again. Seeking out reliable, long term partners who are more resilient to full pendulum swings that gut everything is paramount, especially those that put international stability over momentary opportunistic grabs at public coffers.

Trump's wiping out trillions of America's power and credibility for coming decades for a couple billion in personal wealth consolidation. Worst case scenario for him; he'll just fuck off somewhere else. Or maybe he becomes god king of earth through incremental annexation. Either way he doesn't give a shit, and the next opportunist won't either.

[–] feanpoli@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Four years? The trumpism can survive Donald Trump, if it is what you are referring to.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

I'm not certain if it can - at least not if Donald Jr is expected to carry the torch.

[–] Sato@lemm.ee 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I would like to see the cheeto king's face when he realized his negitatiating tactics won't work on leaders who actually now how shit works.

[–] notabot@lemm.ee 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, what I suspect will happen is some thing along the lines of:

  • US imposes tariffs on EU
  • EU responds with tariffs on kind
  • trump says the EU are being unfair and increases tariffs
  • EU increase tariffs in response
  • Days later, trump claims some sort of negotiated agreement and cancels tariff increase
  • EU cancels their tariff increase
  • trump claims is is a jeenious! as he got the EU to drop those horrible, evil, tariffs.

We might get the condensed version without the increase steps, but the general shape of his process seems to be becoming clear.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

The EU should keep the tariffs, even if the US cancels them. How the fuck can we trust him up to not do it again? The orange turd changes policy multiple times a day, can't trust him at all!

[–] DarkWinterNights@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

You've probably nailed it, unfortunately. Which will beget more of this behaviour the next time he wants international theater and conflict of interest moneys to distract from national theater and conflict of interest moneys.