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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 9 minutes ago* (last edited 7 minutes ago)

If giant megacorporations can benefit by ignoring copyright, us mortals should be able to as well.

Until then, you have the public domain to train on. If you don't want AI to talk like the 1920s, you shouldn't have extended copyright and robbed society of a robust public domain.

[–] Greyfoxsolid@lemmy.world 2 points 39 minutes ago (1 children)

Sorry to say, but he's right. For AI to truly flourish in the West, it needs access to all previously human made information and media.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 3 points 14 minutes ago

Then it's a good thing they won't get it.

[–] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 29 points 4 hours ago

If I had to pay tuition for education (buying text books, pay for classes and stuff), then you have to pay me to train your stupid AI using my materials.

[–] Greyfoxsolid@lemmy.world -4 points 38 minutes ago (3 children)

I find it odd that Lemmy users are so adverse to tech.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 25 minutes ago

I am opposed to shitty tech.

[–] miridius@lemmy.world 0 points 8 minutes ago

Yeah it's crazy how intense the Lemmy hive mind is about some things. It's basically a cult

[–] Traister101 2 points 27 minutes ago (1 children)

Is that so? I don't find it odd at all when the only thing LLMs are good at so far is losing people their jobs and lowering the quality of essentially everything they get shoved into.

[–] miridius@lemmy.world -1 points 10 minutes ago

That sounds like user error, not the LLMs fault

[–] __UnicornPower__@lemmy.ca 23 points 4 hours ago

As an artist, kindly get fucked ass hole. I'd like compensation for all the work of mine you stole.

[–] BussyGyatt@feddit.org 20 points 4 hours ago

"How are we supposed to win the race if we can't cheat?!"

[–] shaquilleoatmeal@lemm.ee 34 points 5 hours ago

“The plagiarism machine will break without more things to plagiarize.”

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 7 points 3 hours ago

Okay.

It was fun while it lasted.

For someone.

I presume.

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 17 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Good, end this AI bullshit, it has little upsides and a metric fuckton of downsides for the common man

[–] techclothes@lemmy.world 1 points 29 minutes ago

It has some great upsides. But those upsides can be trained on specific information that they pay for instead of training AI on people's stuff who didn't consent.

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[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

What a giant load of crap.

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

Oh no anyway.jpg

[–] SaladKing@lemm.ee 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

This is exactly what social media companies have been doing for a while (it’s free, yes) they use your data to train their algorithms to squeeze more money out of people. They get a tangible and monetary benefit from our collective data. These AI companies want to train their AI on our hard work and then get monetary benefit off of it. How is this not seen as theft or even if they are not doing it just yet…how is it not seen as an attempt at theft?

How come people (not the tech savvy) are unable to see how they are being exploited? These companies are not currently working towards any UBI bills or policies in governments that I am aware of. Since they want to take our work, and use it to get rich and their investors rich why do they think they are justified in using people’s work? It just seems so slime-y.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Capital calls its own theft "innovation" and that of the individual "crime".

[–] Lila_Uraraka@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 hours ago

So, did we win?

[–] magnus919@lemmy.brandyapple.com 2 points 4 hours ago

I'll take him seriously if & when OpenAI lives up to its name.

[–] Hawanja@lemmy.world 34 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] nectar45@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 hours ago

dont threaten me with a good time

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 7 points 6 hours ago

No, actually they've just finally admitted that they can't improve them any further because there's not enough training data in existence to squeeze any more demonizing returns out of.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 8 hours ago

Oops, oh well. I very much hope it's over, asshole.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 48 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The only way this would be ok is if openai was actually open. make the entire damn thing free and open source, and most of the complaints will go away.

[–] undrwater@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Truly open is the only way LLMs make sense.

They're using us and our content openly. The relationship should be reciprocal. Now, they need to somehow keep the servers running.

Perhaps a SETI like model?

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, make em non profit (or not for profit) and perfecly good with that. Also open source the model so I can run it on my own hardware if I want to.

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[–] RatherBeMTB@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Over in the US, that's giving China the advantage in AI development. Won't happen.

[–] peteyestee@feddit.org 2 points 5 hours ago

It's it's like USA adopting China's IP laws.

[–] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 30 points 11 hours ago

over it is then. Buh bye!

[–] psyspoop@lemm.ee 137 points 14 hours ago (20 children)

But I can't pirate copyrighted materials to "train" my own real intelligence.

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[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 36 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Why does Sam have such a punchable face?

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 27 points 11 hours ago (7 children)
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[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 29 points 12 hours ago

Business that stole everyone's information to train a model complains that businesses can steal information to train models.

Yeah I'll pour one out for folks who promised to open-source their model and then backed out the moment the money appeared... Wankers.

[–] momodocho@lemmings.world 5 points 8 hours ago
[–] rageagainstmachines@lemmy.world 101 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

"We can't succeed without breaking the law. We can't succeed without operating unethically."

I'm so sick of this bullshit. They pretend to love a free market until it's not in their favor and then they ask us to bend over backwards for them.

Too many people think they're superior. Which is ironic, because they're also the ones asking for handouts and rule bending. If you were superior, you wouldn't need all the unethical things that you're asking for.

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[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 43 points 14 hours ago (24 children)

Copyrights should have never been extended longer than 5 years in the first place, either remove draconian copyright laws or outlaw LLM style models using copyrighted material, corpos can't have both.

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[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I think copyright lasting 20 years or so is not unreasonable in our current society. I'd obviously love to live in a society where we could get away with lower. As a compromise, I'd like to see compulsory licensing applied to all written work. (E.g., after n years, anyone can use it if they pay royalties and you can't stop them; the amount of royalties gradually decreases until it's in the public domain.)

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