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[–] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 hour ago

If I had to pay tuition for education (buying text books, pay for classes and stuff), then you have to pay me to train your stupid AI using my materials.

[–] __UnicornPower__@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 hour ago

As an artist, kindly get fucked ass hole. I'd like compensation for all the work of mine you stole.

[–] BussyGyatt@feddit.org 11 points 1 hour ago

"How are we supposed to win the race if we can't cheat?!"

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 4 points 1 hour ago

Okay.

It was fun while it lasted.

For someone.

I presume.

[–] shaquilleoatmeal@lemm.ee 26 points 3 hours ago

“The plagiarism machine will break without more things to plagiarize.”

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 12 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Good, end this AI bullshit, it has little upsides and a metric fuckton of downsides for the common man

[–] peteyestee@feddit.org -1 points 2 hours ago

You don't want to all become literally socially and mentally retarded together but apart?

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Oh no anyway.jpg

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

What a giant load of crap.

[–] SaladKing@lemm.ee 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

This is exactly what social media companies have been doing for a while (it’s free, yes) they use your data to train their algorithms to squeeze more money out of people. They get a tangible and monetary benefit from our collective data. These AI companies want to train their AI on our hard work and then get monetary benefit off of it. How is this not seen as theft or even if they are not doing it just yet…how is it not seen as an attempt at theft?

How come people (not the tech savvy) are unable to see how they are being exploited? These companies are not currently working towards any UBI bills or policies in governments that I am aware of. Since they want to take our work, and use it to get rich and their investors rich why do they think they are justified in using people’s work? It just seems so slime-y.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Capital calls its own theft "innovation" and that of the individual "crime".

So, did we win?

I'll take him seriously if & when OpenAI lives up to its name.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 6 points 4 hours ago

No, actually they've just finally admitted that they can't improve them any further because there's not enough training data in existence to squeeze any more demonizing returns out of.

[–] RatherBeMTB@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Over in the US, that's giving China the advantage in AI development. Won't happen.

[–] peteyestee@feddit.org 2 points 2 hours ago

It's it's like USA adopting China's IP laws.

[–] Hawanja@lemmy.world 31 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] nectar45@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago

dont threaten me with a good time

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 6 hours ago

Oops, oh well. I very much hope it's over, asshole.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 46 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The only way this would be ok is if openai was actually open. make the entire damn thing free and open source, and most of the complaints will go away.

[–] undrwater@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Truly open is the only way LLMs make sense.

They're using us and our content openly. The relationship should be reciprocal. Now, they need to somehow keep the servers running.

Perhaps a SETI like model?

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, make em non profit (or not for profit) and perfecly good with that. Also open source the model so I can run it on my own hardware if I want to.

[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Open AI kind of is a nonprofit. It's a nonprofit entity owned by a for profit entity, which is fucky and defeats the purpose, but that's an argument you'll see people make.

[–] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 30 points 9 hours ago

over it is then. Buh bye!

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 34 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Why does Sam have such a punchable face?

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 27 points 9 hours ago (7 children)
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[–] psyspoop@lemm.ee 130 points 12 hours ago (20 children)

But I can't pirate copyrighted materials to "train" my own real intelligence.

[–] Bruncvik@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

That's because the elites don't want you to think for yourself, and instead are designing tools that will tell you what to think.

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[–] momodocho@lemmings.world 4 points 6 hours ago
[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 28 points 9 hours ago

Business that stole everyone's information to train a model complains that businesses can steal information to train models.

Yeah I'll pour one out for folks who promised to open-source their model and then backed out the moment the money appeared... Wankers.

[–] rageagainstmachines@lemmy.world 99 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

"We can't succeed without breaking the law. We can't succeed without operating unethically."

I'm so sick of this bullshit. They pretend to love a free market until it's not in their favor and then they ask us to bend over backwards for them.

Too many people think they're superior. Which is ironic, because they're also the ones asking for handouts and rule bending. If you were superior, you wouldn't need all the unethical things that you're asking for.

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[–] Teknikal@eviltoast.org 2 points 6 hours ago

Apparantly their trying to get Deepseek banned again, really doesn't like competition this guy.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 42 points 12 hours ago (11 children)

Copyrights should have never been extended longer than 5 years in the first place, either remove draconian copyright laws or outlaw LLM style models using copyrighted material, corpos can't have both.

[–] Shadowfax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

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[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 9 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I think copyright lasting 20 years or so is not unreasonable in our current society. I'd obviously love to live in a society where we could get away with lower. As a compromise, I'd like to see compulsory licensing applied to all written work. (E.g., after n years, anyone can use it if they pay royalties and you can't stop them; the amount of royalties gradually decreases until it's in the public domain.)

[–] Rainbowsaurus@lemm.ee 28 points 11 hours ago (12 children)

Bro, what? Some books take more than 5 years to write and you want their authors to only have authorship of it for 5 years? Wtf. I have published books that are a dozen years old and I'm in my mid-30s. This is an insane take.

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 19 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The one I thought was a good compromise was 14 years, with the option to file again for a single renewal for a second 14 years. That was the basic system in the US for quite a while, and it has the benefit of being a good fit for the human life span--it means that the stuff that was popular with our parents when we were kids, i.e. the cultural milieu in which we were raised, would be public domain by the time we were adults, and we'd be free to remix it and revisit it. It also covers the vast majority of the sales lifetime of a work, and makes preservation and archiving more generally feasible.

5 years may be an overcorrection, but I think very limited terms like that are closer to the right solution than our current system is.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 57 points 13 hours ago

So pirating full works for commercial use suddenly is "fair use", or what? Lets see what e.g. Disney says about this.

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