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Not because DDG got better, but just because google got worse.

google is still better for site-specific searches, and google scholar still has minimal AI slop

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[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 minutes ago

It’s just as good as 2008 google, which is all I want.

[–] BaumGeist@lemmy.ml 2 points 48 minutes ago

Yes, I switched back in 2023 and noticed it was already better than google.

All major search engines feel like they're either filled with AI slop results, or just only returning major corporations' sites anymore, though. DDG just falls into the latter, while Google is mostly the former.

[–] dx1@lemmy.ml 2 points 55 minutes ago* (last edited 54 minutes ago)

It's my primary but Google unfortunately is often a fallback. And Google is tracking the shit out of us these days. Certain obscure searches don't work well on DDG, sad to say.

[–] Arfman@aussie.zone 1 points 40 minutes ago

Google is almost unusable for me even with ad block. I've been using DDG for the last 3 or so years now.

Naw. I use Kagi (paid) now, and get much better search results.

[–] HouseWolf@lemm.ee 7 points 3 hours ago

I've been using DDG since 2016 and never felt it was worse in terms of "search quality" than Google.

Especially nowadays I hear friends whine near weekly about Google, but it's still somehow "better than DDG".

Honestly people just make excuses not to change what they're use to. Even if what they're used to has changed around them for the worse.

My only real complain I have is I wish 'search by date range' was less finicky use and also worked in the image tab like it does in Google images.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 hours ago

no. i switch to using it as my primary search engine every once in a while, just to see how it's doing. i always run into situations where i can't find the thing im looking for. maybe im just the obscure searches man

[–] BackwardsUntoDawn@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

No. I was using big for the rewards points for a long time, the results were fine. I switched to kagi for ~6 months and it was good too. Since it's a little expensive I switched to DDG to see if I noticed a difference, it's been a little worse in comparison.

[–] techpir8@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 hours ago

Don't you mean DuckDuckBing ?

[–] Viskio_Neta_Kafo@lemm.ee 2 points 3 hours ago

Probably so. Haven't used it much but Google has got so much worse. Being filled with adds and irrelevant results that DuckDuckgo probably is better now.

As a general purpose search engine yeah it's just as good. Google has some nice extra features which aren't too important (for example if you search UFC it shows full fight card info and results on the search page).

Where it falls behind is for more "power user " type work. I only use Google at work as it makes finding very specific results with keywords and date ranges on certain sites etc much easier.

Nowadays I use Qwant though to boycott us. It's much slower but still does the job for day to day use.

[–] Alpha71@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago
[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 hours ago

It has been for several years now. I rarely use Google now, and when I do, I'm using it out of DuckDuckGo (!g)

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 18 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

ive been using it consistently for the past few years. it works well for me, but sometimes ill go to other engines just to see what they come up with, or when results are lacking. sometimes they are better, sometimes they are worse.

meaning ddg is probably good enough nowadays, at least for me.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 11 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You probably already know this, but you can use search "bangs" to search other websites from ddg.

For example, to search google, you would put !g or !google at the start of your search.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

i do! it transformed my address bar, i sometimes use other engines through ddg now. its the main reason its my search provider.

[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 3 points 8 hours ago

I'd say the same. Google dorks work much better than DDG's filters for site-specific stuff, and generally for things like "search term" but for general searches DDG seems pretty similar.

The only things I've also had worse performance from DDG on compared to Google (in very minimal ways) has been:

  • Highly specific searches (e.g. searching for a diagram of the dimensions of common connector types, DDG shows side-by-sides of connectors, Google does that but also with more diagrams that have dimensions in them)
  • Context but not keyword based searches (e.g. "thing that has x y and z characteristics" returns more relevant results in Google than DDG, very marginally)

And of course, there's always the !s bang to run a search through Startpage (which uses Google) if I'm not getting enough detail.

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 8 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

You seriously can't type whatever dae means?

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago

I’ve been online for almost thirty years and have never - knowingly - seen β€œdae” as an abbreviation.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

DAE is a fairly common acronym on online forums, often used in titles such as these. You could have used Google (or DuckDuckGo) to learn its meaning 😊

It's simply "does anyone else."

[–] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 hours ago (15 children)

I can. Be nice and I might.

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[–] MrMeatballGuy@feddit.dk 5 points 10 hours ago

Never saw that abbreviation before, but my assumption is it's "does anyone else" since I can't think of anything else that'd make sense in this context

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Definitely not; DDG has always been bad. However, as others have pointed out, Google is getting worse and every day. That said, it's still better than DDG, which isn't saying much.

There are no good search engines anymore. I got tired of having to add site:reddit.com to all or my searches to get actual answers, so now I've resorted to using AI and pretending that it isn't just making up half the shit it spews. Perplexity is a half decent replacement for a search engine; it's more accurate than most and it cites its sources:

https://lemmy.world/post/26764870

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 1 points 7 hours ago

Have you tried Kagi? They have their problems, but I think it's better than Google.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 8 hours ago

What do people use google scholar for? Use jstor and other specific databases like arxiv

[–] limoncia@lemm.ee 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I found Qwant to be a bit better, but yeah. Google got so much worse over last few years

[–] ScoreDivision@programming.dev 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I also use Qwant but it's noticeably slower for me. Do you find the same?

[–] limoncia@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

Yes, it responds slower but I don't really mind it. Like it's not significantly slower from others in my case.

[–] turnip@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago

I use Yandex for finding pirated or otherwise censored content.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 points 8 hours ago

Google just got worse.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I really agree Google just took themself out of the market. I wouldn't be surprised if they dropped their "search" product completely, the way they've dropped a lot of other good products along the way.

[–] CheeseToastie@lazysoci.al 2 points 10 hours ago

I've never forgiven them for getting rid of their search within results, that was brilliant

[–] DioEgizio@lemm.ee 4 points 12 hours ago

yeah honestly I've been using ddg for a very long time and while a few years ago I had to frequently !g because search sucked now google got so enshittified many times ddg feels better

[–] lucg@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

Eyeing the replies, does not one other person here get results constantly flooded with content farms? They've gotten significantly worse

But then, I don't use Google so maybe this is still better than Google Search?

It started maybe three years ago, around the same time as LLMs became usable for this, but I'm pretty sure >50% are human-written still. Probably the LLM generates the structure (saves any time they'd have to spend coming up with plausible-sounding texts) and someone from a low-income country is contracted to make it look more legit

Of course, queries for topics that have a Wikipedia page get Wikipedia first, recipes get tons of big-name recipe sites, products get stores. But when there's no obvious market around a topic, 3~4 out of 5 results are content farms pretending to have useful information to show unwary visitors ads

(As an alternative, I still have to try Kagi properly. It seemed on par with DDG when I did a few searches last year, but then their payment processor refused me trying to load my account, support was unhelpful, and I've gotten sidetracked since)

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

The problem with DDG is that when it doesnt find much it simply throws random shit at you. It’s infuriating.

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