Lemmy's design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

EDIT: I know there are upvotes and downvotes, but the problem with Reddit is you can't post in most communities if your karma or reputation is bad. This is a big problem because herd mentality prevails there and if ypu have unpopular opinions you're basically censored.

Lemmy isn't designed to milk ypur dopamine with notifications every 10 upvotes, so you focus more on posting valuable cont instead of farming for approval and upvotes.

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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 23 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

I wish that commenting would automatically upvote a post. It's far too late to fix the use of an upvote as approval of subject discussion and not just an agree arrow, but I often...no, I almost always forget to upvote the initial topic even after leaving a few paragraphs. One would hope whatever algorithm is used also considers activity and number of comments in a rating or suggesting it to others.

[–] Skavau@lemm.ee 18 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I often just forget to upvote generally. Although this could lead to argumentative posters making troll posts, getting engagement and trending just because people reply to them.

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[–] naught101@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

There ate multiple algorithms, but I don't think any of them account for both votes and comments.. I might be wrong though.

Tangent: the "scaled* algorithm, which normalises post ranks by the popularity of the community they're posted to, is excellent. I recommend everyone use it as their default.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 12 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

I mean there are upvotes and downvotes so I don't know what you mean. But there isn't a real incentive to have lots of upvotes on here. I'm not even sure why karma farming even is a thing on reddit. Maybe cause you can sell the account to whatever guy wants to buy it?

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I was offered $300 for my Reddit account once lmao

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That's batshit crazy

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

Not crazy if you want to advertise on the down low. I worked a summer once doing that shit, it's insidious. Blockers don't even block someone pretending to like a product.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 21 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

I don't get the karma hangup thing. Like.. Lemmy does have Karma, but we just don't culturally make it a priority.

[–] wittycomputer@feddit.org 17 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

The fact that it's not designed to notify you every time you get 5 upvotes changes the game. Also low Karma accounts can post in Lemmy as opposed to Reddit.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 15 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly - Reddit specifically and intentionally uses dark patterns to reinforce the importance of karma at every turn. The first interaction that someone has with Reddit is usually "you don't have enough karma to post/comment/vote in this subreddit." There are secret communities and public awards for high karma earners. There is a frontpage dedicated to rapid karma-earning posts. There is no disincentive for karma farming reposts, and subreddits are actually punished for reducing reposts. Karma is commoditized.

Here the votes still matter, but the algorithm is public and users can and do sort in a variety of ways to discover new and relevant content. There is no single "front-page"

[–] Skavau@lemm.ee 8 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

Unfortunately, on reddit - when subreddits restrict new posters or low karma commenters, they're just trying to mitigate the impact of trolls and bots and people making new accounts. It's not about being elitist.

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 8 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (4 children)

low Karma accounts can post in Lemmy as opposed to Reddit

But should they?

One of the things I miss about reddit (and slashdot before that) was that if you got downvoted/downmodded a lot in a short amount of time, it would tell you to slow down (, cowboy). It helped to limit the damage when someone would go on a troll spree before they got banned.

Some subreddits did implement a "you must have x karma to post" rule, or account age, which I wasn't always a fan of, especially if it was karma within a certain subreddit. I understand the logic, that it was intended to make people read the community before posting, but I'm not sure if it hit the mark. But it did limit brand-new spam accounts, which are already here on lemmy.

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[–] Skavau@lemm.ee 5 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

This may not be an inherently bad thing given that low karma accounts tend to be trolls.

[–] lemmyingly@lemm.ee 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I'd argue that low karma accounts tend to be new people or lurkers.

[–] Skavau@lemm.ee 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

By low karma I mean -100 types.

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[–] naught101@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

It doesn't accumulate and display anywhere though, does it?

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[–] rglullis@communick.news 13 points 20 hours ago (18 children)

Ironically, this account's bio and its history is screaming "I am a LLM posting a bunch of AI slop".

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[–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 5 points 19 hours ago

Shit, I'm sorry. I had close to 1m before I bailed. It was all quality comment karma though. I just have no life.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 4 points 18 hours ago

Thanks, kind stranger! Here's an updoot and Reddit Silver!

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