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[–] merdaverse@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Plot twist: the person writing this is President Musk and the employee he's referring to is Trump.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

I tell people that if they think other countries pay the tariffs they probably believe Mexico is paying for a wall

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 42 points 1 day ago (4 children)

To be fair, economics is not intuitive. Half of it is built out of unicorn dust and human imagination. How else would bitcoin even exist? For those of you who are economists and love the money side, vs the behavioral side, that’s great, we need people like you to explain it to the rest of us.

I work with a real system that will still exist no matter what happens with politics or money, so it takes work, for me. That said, tariffs and inflation are not difficult concepts provided you simply take the time to learn.

I know someone who lost their job in December due to tariffs anticipation, and they were not alone in that group of layoffs. The effects are there even if you fail to learn the reasons.

[–] some_dude@lemm.ee 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm of average intelligence so if I can understand it, so can they.

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[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Doing your own research or, you know, trust the experts? There's no way I will get deep enough into virology to get a proper grasp if I need a vaccination. But I for sure won't trust a random space Karen or brainworm Jimmy.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

literally googling tariffs, brings you to a government page that lists tariffs, duties, and taxes under the same fucking definition.

How people like this DO NOT understand this shit, is beyond me. I can respect the humility in changing your position after being that stupid though, please, due your due diligence before mindlessly repeating the shit other people tell you, so you don't look stupid.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What, visit a website, read it, then comprehend it? What, like a book?! May as well ask them to make a phone call.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

yeah, otherwise you're a dumbass, and will look like one to everyone around you, unfortunately.

This is normal behavior. Ironically they would probably be more than willing to make a phone call.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 22 points 1 day ago

Isn't this the same debate as to how one country can (or cannot) force another country to pay for a random construction project that isn't in anyones interest (that wall)?

It's not like the concept is beyond (basically, 99.9+%) anyones cognitive abilities. It's just how ads (the science behind it is plentiful, it's a giant business sector) work on human brains.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

Of course the employee is wrong, but the OOP isn't tackling the argument in a really productive way. There's an opportunity to meet the employee where they are.

People caught in the right wing noise machine always seem to understand that businesses pass on business taxes to the consumer. So, if other countries were paying the tariffs, why wouldn't they pass those costs on?

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago

The whole thing was very purposefully talked about using the word "tariff" and never ever its synonym "import tax" exactly so that the traditional Fascist technique of redefining the meaning of words could be easily used: if all the Fascists' speech had been about "import taxes" they would not have been able to leverage most people's ignorance anywhere near this level because the very words "import" and "tax" were already reasonably well understood by most - unlike "tariff" - so the opinion makers would not have been able to miseducate their targets anywhere as easily.

I'm not saying that the people who fell for this are to be excused - if there is something important enough for you to put the effort into educating yourself, it's Politics - I'm saying it's understandable how so many were so easy to swindle.

[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

And the people who voted for the orangetard will still be shafted by him and his mafia yet will continue to blame "obiden" for their economic woes. πŸ₯±

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