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[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"He was told the other countries pay the tariffs", by a bunch of liars and he believed the liars.

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[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"Doing your own research" means watching one or two YouTube videos or Facebook posts as far as these people are concerned. No thought for themselves, just parrot what you hear.

[–] cabinet_sanchez@midwest.social 13 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I don't understand why this even needs to be researched. I'm no economist and I don't know much about tariffs, but: costs more to get product to me for any reason = product costs me more. When has that ever not been the case? What am I missing?

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[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 132 points 2 days ago (7 children)

The OP is battling against what Faux Newz, Dipshit Donnie, and other right-wing propagandist shitrags are telling his employee, all which the employee takes as indesputable truth. If he can override that much brainwashing he can convince anyone of anything.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"The Big Lie" is what Sanders is calling it.

[–] jabeez 23 points 1 day ago

How many "big lies" are we up to now?

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[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Real answer is in the last line there. If 60% of people we're capable of doing their own research (and arriving at the correct answer) then we wouldn't have anti-vaxers, flat-earthers and non-billionaire/non-bigot/non-christian nationalist republicans.

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 46 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Man, this isn't even "doing your research" it's just knowing what very basic words mean.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago (12 children)

I bet a coworker $20 that "tariff" and "tax" were synonyms. Motherfucker refused to pay up, calling merriam-webster.com, thesauraus.com, wikipedia etc. "fake news".

[–] towerful@programming.dev 26 points 1 day ago

Your mistake was referencing a woketionary.

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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s actually a huge problem I’ve had with a right winger.

Even though he was relatively reasonable, we got stuck because we could not agree on what fascism means.

I was good to use a dictionary or better yet Wikipedia. He said it can only mean what Mussolini meant when he came up with the term.

What was annoying is that all I wanted to do was say, group X does Y things, Y things are fascism and fascism is bad.

It’s just mental gymnastics because it doesn’t matter what we call it, group X is still doing bad things, but instead we got stuck on details.

Imo this is pretty much all right wing’s only play, dismantle the tools of logic so the conversation doesn’t even happen in the first place.

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[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 80 points 2 days ago (2 children)

and every one of the millions who ~~were~~are just as dumb, will forget the lessons learned well before the next election and vote for it all over again.

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You know, the one Trump wins with 106% of the totaled votes.

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Omg. We’ve come full circle now that smart people are telling idiots to do your own research…

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 42 points 2 days ago (6 children)

To be fair, economics is not intuitive. Half of it is built out of unicorn dust and human imagination. How else would bitcoin even exist? For those of you who are economists and love the money side, vs the behavioral side, that’s great, we need people like you to explain it to the rest of us.

I work with a real system that will still exist no matter what happens with politics or money, so it takes work, for me. That said, tariffs and inflation are not difficult concepts provided you simply take the time to learn.

I know someone who lost their job in December due to tariffs anticipation, and they were not alone in that group of layoffs. The effects are there even if you fail to learn the reasons.

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[–] merdaverse@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Plot twist: the person writing this is President Musk and the employee he's referring to is Trump.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 22 points 1 day ago

Isn't this the same debate as to how one country can (or cannot) force another country to pay for a random construction project that isn't in anyones interest (that wall)?

It's not like the concept is beyond (basically, 99.9+%) anyones cognitive abilities. It's just how ads (the science behind it is plentiful, it's a giant business sector) work on human brains.

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Doing your own research or, you know, trust the experts? There's no way I will get deep enough into virology to get a proper grasp if I need a vaccination. But I for sure won't trust a random space Karen or brainworm Jimmy.

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[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

Of course the employee is wrong, but the OOP isn't tackling the argument in a really productive way. There's an opportunity to meet the employee where they are.

People caught in the right wing noise machine always seem to understand that businesses pass on business taxes to the consumer. So, if other countries were paying the tariffs, why wouldn't they pass those costs on?

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