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    [–] lmuel@sopuli.xyz 23 points 6 hours ago

    Mum wouldn't even notice as long as the wallpaper is the same

    [–] palordrolap@fedia.io 161 points 8 hours ago (20 children)

    99% of people want a drop-in replacement for Windows that will install and run every possible Windows-compatible application, game and device without them having to make any extra effort or learn anything new. Basically Windows but free (in all senses).

    Any even slightly subtle difference or incompatibility and they'll balk. Linux can never be that, and Microsoft will keep the goalposts moving anyway to be sure of it.

    Sure, a lot more works and is more user friendly than 15 years ago, but most people won't make the time to sit down and deal with something new unless it's forced on them... which is what Microsoft are doing with Win11.

    [–] net00@lemm.ee 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

    You say it like it's a bad thing but yes, I want my stuff to just work and my apps to just run after I download them... I don't want to spend hours every other day or week during my limited free time troubleshooting why something doesn't work. I already spend all day doing that in my work's linux servers and my home server.

    This is an issue with FOSS. If something doesn't work then you are on your own. Yes, I can fix it, or work around it, or whatever but it will take hours that I could be spending in windows 11 just playing a game or actually learn something more relevant instead of troubleshooting random shit. On other apps as well, I've paid for a lot of software to be able to ask the owners to help and for them to not tell me to fuck off.

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    [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 35 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (14 children)

    More user friendly doesn't mean you won't have to spend hours troubleshooting driver issues that you will never have on Windows, that's a real problem...

    (and when you find the solution you need to input commands in terminal that you can't tell what they do, that's a huge security concern as it teaches users to just trust anyone who tells them to do things they don't understand)

    [–] MudMan@fedia.io 61 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

    Man, people really overstate the barrier to entry to the terminal. Windows troubleshooting is full of command line stuff as well.

    It's not the terminal, it's the underlying issues. Having more GUI options to set certain things is nice, but the reality of it is that if an option isn't customizable to the point of needing quick GUI access it should just never break, not be configurable or at least not need any manual configuration at any point. The reason nobody goes "oh, but Windows command line is so annoying" is that if you are digging in there something has gone very wrong or you're trying to do something Windows doesn't want you to do.

    The big difference is that the OS not wanting you to do things you can do is a bug for people in this type of online community while for normies it's a feature.

    [–] MITM0@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

    The linux terminal is really easy to get into & the UNIX file-system is just nicely organized

    [–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 20 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

    You know whats worse than doing things in windows command line or powershell? The registry

    "Nooooo! I cant $sudo nano /etc/some.conf!!!!"

    Regedit -> HKEY_USERS/microsoft/windows/system/some_setting --> value=FUCK type=DWORD

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    [–] argon 22 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

    Windows 11 doesn't even support first gen Ryzen CPUs. The amount of hardware that runs Windows 11 without tinkering is a tiny fraction of the hardware that runs Fedora Workstation without tinkering.

    Linux is much better with drivers and hardware support than Windows. Windows only works well if you use the very small subset of hardware it supports.

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    [–] MITM0@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

    It's ready enough, but at the same time not ready. It could be better

    [–] Rin@lemm.ee 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

    I've been using Linux as my main OS (NixOS btw) for everything for years now. The only things that doesn't work is anti-cheat...

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 hours ago

    That's a feature (probably)

    ah the early 2000s days of fedora.

    [–] RushJet1@lemmy.world 15 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

    My excuse for not switching to Linux for a long time was that it couldn't play games. Now that proton is a pretty developed thing, that's no longer an excuse. I actually tried out mint Linux for a friend to see how easy it was to use and I just kept using it because it did everything I wanted it to. As a power user I had to modify it quite a lot but my friend just wants to basically load into the OS, launch a browser or play games from steam and that's about it, so for him it's pretty easy and straightforward.

    I actually ended up installing kubuntu on his computer and modified it to look exactly like Windows 7, which is what he's upgrading from. It's kind of scary how close it got.

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    [–] sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org 68 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

    "Have you tried installing Linux on your computer recently?"

    "WTF is a computer?"

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    [–] Gladaed@feddit.org 19 points 8 hours ago

    Bad experiences from the past are valid reasons to be apprehensive.

    [–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 19 points 8 hours ago (9 children)

    Linux is not ready for most people

    The last time i used it was 30 minutes ago

    [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

    That's because the computer most people actually need is a tablet.

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    [–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 32 points 9 hours ago (11 children)

    For server hosting it's the only way to go.

    Gaming has improved significantly, although it's rather frustrating that it's by all these compatibility layers and such rather than native run.

    For desktop, as a workstation and general purpose it's 'ok' with rough edges. Things like (limited tests with a couple common distros like Ubuntu/Mint/Bazzite) the nextcloud app not supporting virtual files that have been available for a while in Windows and domain auth being twitchy where I've tried.

    For the end user a big part is being able to just find an app and use it, no compiling or tweaking of settings needed for it to do what's expected. Package managers help greatly, but with the huge number of distros out there it makes it really hit and miss to say just go for it. The relatively few times you can just download a Linux version of an app from a site (as people are prone to doing if they go read about something on the web) you often would have to go chmod +x it and quite possibly have to run it from a CLI rather than just click the downloaded app.

    So usable yes, but in a place where I could just drop it on someone and say go to town less so...

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