Also the amount of people bringing the "the 3 times people tried socialism were bad, so the whole ideology must be bad" argument are way to high IMHO.

How many times was capitalism tried? How many times it worked out? Is the USA a "functioning" state with all the oppression, racism, greed, invading other countries out of monetarian interest and environment destruction?

While I agree with you, that oppression is bad, no matter what the oppressor calls himself, we should talk about policies without resorting to dogmas and generalising people in favor of fear the hegemonic class is propagating to stay in power.

[–] Sekoia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's not the tankies here; these are "North Korea is a great country, actually" tankies.

[–] TrashcanMarxist@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Should probably listen to Blowback Season 3.

Not to say they're a perfect country but to pretend that anyone in the West can critique them when their material conditions are dictated by the actions of the West is just comical.

If you aren't a materialist, what are you even doing? As if history happens in the realm of pure thought.....

[–] Sekoia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The material conditions forcing North Korea to make work camps

Bugger off, tankie

[–] tanja@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Based.

They already have lemmygrad.

Honestly, I don't think we need them here.

[–] Jediotty@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

the have genzdong in there lol

[–] moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Just removed like 40 comments and banned a buncha people.

[–] rowie324@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

tankies more like no thankies

[–] Big_Farto@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I got banned from lemmygrad for saying acab means all cops lmao

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Meanwhile anarchist organizing doesn't have cops, it has Agents of Community Defense who definitely aren't cops!

I have nothing against anarchists, but you need to see past slogans to be anything but a useful idiot to neoliberals.

[–] Big_Farto@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I mean any person or entity that enforces oppressive laws is a bastard. The government of China is far from some sort of benevolent state.

[–] BlinkerFluid@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank fuck. I thought Lemmy was some ultra militant leftist hellhole before the shift.

I don't like extreme radical left any more than extreme radical right.

Fuck Che Guevara. Read a book.

[–] Coryneform@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what if the book is Che Guevaras "Guerrilla Warfare"

[–] BlinkerFluid@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Is being a good tactician and being a genocidal, totalitarian extremist an oil and water situation?

He can be both.

[–] boopinsnoots@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know what tankies are and at this point I'm too afraid to ask

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Usually people who advocate military communism, such as defending tiananmen square, Stalin, and more. Basically it's usually the belief that anything a government professing to be communist does must be good.

[–] 1988Passive_Browsing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

300 Comments already. Oh my god! Lol.

[–] lazy_digestive@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This comment section is really something uh

[–] Silverstrings@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Tankies on their way to explain why teaming up with the Nazis to conquer Poland is actually based and totally in line with Marxist philosophy.

[–] proletariatnerd@iusearchlinux.fyi 1 points 1 year ago

Can you give an actual example?

[–] shadowscale@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

there's literally a community called "moretankie196", they should go infest that one instead

[–] Sekoia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

This post has literally 6 times the comments of the next most-comments post, jesus. Wonder what could have triggered this!

[–] 1988Passive_Browsing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I have always wondered why it always says "Kick _" when she is punching instead of kicking. Lol.

[–] TanteRegenbogen@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Why are Blanquists even in the Fediverse? The Fediverse is about decentralization while Blanquists are for the extreme opposite.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Literally just made an account and am just a Reddit pleb. What exactly are tankies and what is 196? Guessing it's a Lemmy server but otherwise unsure

[–] shadowscale@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

196 is a shitpost sub where you must post something when you vist

a tankie is a authoritarian that believes they're a communist. they support the imperialist invasion of Ukraine, and they deny the tianaman square massacre, where the CCP ran tanks over college students protesting the authoritarian government. they deny a bunch of other atrocities as well, these are the only two i can think of right now.

a lot of tankies are going to be posting an essay by Engles that defends authoritarianism, asserting that authoritarianism is compatible with communism. which, while sure, isn't ideal because one person having power always ends in genocide. well, it doesn't end in genocide, genocide just... happens under authoritarianism.