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ROME, March 22 (Reuters) - Negotiations on a potential contract between Elon Musk's satellite internet operator Starlink and the Italian government have stalled, reflecting broader geopolitical tensions, Italy's defence minister said on Saturday.

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[–] DicksAndPizza@lemm.ee 70 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Fuck Starlink. Europe is working on its own alternative and it would be actual traitor behaviour to still make a Starlink contract. If anything it should be banned.

Fuck Elon Musk. I want to see him crying and poor. Or „worse“. ☺️🪦💀

[–] fdrc_lm@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

They will literally do everything except just installing freaking fiber cables

[–] DicksAndPizza@lemm.ee 19 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

As a German I hear you. Internet is an actual embarrassment over here. I’m on a 50k Mbit connection and that’s the most they can offer me. 100k is out of question, they told me to ask again in 2028.

Even some African nations probably have better internet than this. Germany is the third richest country by gdp btw.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Wow, even some african nations huh?

[–] DicksAndPizza@lemm.ee 0 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Yes. I mean…. Name a developed one besides South Africa.

Africa is currently a shithole.

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.one 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

You’re on a 50 Gbps connection and you want more?

[–] DicksAndPizza@lemm.ee 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Lmao. I wish. I am on a 50 MBIT (not GBIT) connection. And yes. I want more. Please give me just a few crumbs.

[–] dabaldeagul@feddit.nl 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The confusion/sarcasm is because you say 50k mbit --> 50 000 mbit --> 50 gbit.

[–] DicksAndPizza@lemm.ee 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Oh I’m sorry I might be kind of an idiot in IT stuff. What I meant was 50.000 megabytes. Which is poor as hell. Even for developing countries.

Really, all I know is that my connection sucks and that I’m on the lowest posisible speed.

[–] dabaldeagul@feddit.nl 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

No, I think you mean 50 megabits per second. I'd consider 100mbit (megabits) average, 50 000 megabits, which is equal to 50 gigabits (or ⅛th of 50 000 megabytes) would be ludicrously unnecessarily much for a residential connection today, and it'd be hard to find hardware to support it.

Just for reference:

  • Modern DDR5 Random Access Memory can be bought for 8000 mega transfers per second, which is pretty high end. According to wikipedia, this is roughly 64 gigabytes per second.

  • PCIe 4 SSDs can reach up to 7GB/s or 56 gigabit/s of data transfer speeds. PCIe 5 drives cap out at roughly 16GB/s or about 128gb/s.

I don't think your internet would be quite that fast, or at least you wouldn't be complaining about it 😅

[–] DicksAndPizza@lemm.ee 1 points 8 hours ago

Yeah you’re probably right. Thanks for the correction.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

With modern wireless technology, fiber isn't even necessary. 5G is cheap and easy.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Fiber needs to be run to the towers. It's easier to install more towers but it's still an expense.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

No, towers can be connected wirelessly with each other.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Wireless trunking can do 10GBs . Fiber does 800GBs. Chaining more towers means more are funneled through that last 10GBs link.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

We are comparing against Starlink, dude.