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Just in case the plane is not recognized immediatly, it's the PW-MK.I from Project Wingman, cool video game, I recommend it for the planes, the music and the memes.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 60 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

puts credible defense hat on

But you know, stealth isn’t the be-all, end-all, really. The Navy’s been dragging their feet on 35 procurement for a while, more heavily emphasizing Rhinos and Growlers. Growlers have an absolutely silly amount of extremely advanced ECM and EW hardware onboard. The general doctrine for USN in peer conflicts right now is to just jam the absolute shit out out anything that’s making unfriendly electronic noises around it and then kill the things with prejudice. Don’t need stealth when you just straight up blind the enemy. Definitely more of a brute force approach, but it’s absolutely valid.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Problem is that makes the growler a huge target. It can't really hide when it's emitting so much. It can be somewhat further back, but it'll still need to be pretty close to the action to be effective jamming.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Exactly. The growler is great when it's emitters outrange the enemy missiles, not so much when they don't.

Now granted, I dont think I'm smarter than the entire US Navy, so they probably thought of this too, but it seems like a big issue to me.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I believe US doctrine is to overwhelm the enemy's air force and air defense within an hour and establish air dominance. There is no way to do that stealthily.

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It can hide among decoy drones.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The decoy drones would need to be emitting too, or it'd need to stop emitting for a while once the missile gets close. But that is a pretty good idea.

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

ADM-160 MALD does serve that purpose and has been in service for a bit.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 8 points 1 week ago

Putting on my brewing hat

Growlers are pretty good. Drunk in one bottle

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 week ago

All generations are made up

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is that art actually from the game? The cockpit and the rest of the plane aren't at the same angle of roll, and the canards aren't lined up

Edit: no it isn't, it's from this person on deviantart who has a whole bunch of AI anthro pokemon waifus on their profile

[–] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

That's the extra gen. Wings roll, body stays upright. We are beyond science.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pffft... I'm building a 12th generation fighter in my garage. It'll be called the F-9000 SuperThunderLightningHog. You just wait and see!

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

HOW CRANKABLE WOULD YOU SAY THE F9000 IS

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

ARROOOOOOOOOO!

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 23 points 1 week ago

But they were all of them deceived. For in secret, another generation of fighter was forged. And in it he poured all his stealth, all his sensor packages, and all his missiles.

[–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 15 points 1 week ago

Weak, real military would skip at least two generations.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Since when did Tahiti have extensive high-tech manufacturing capacity?

[–] Vryoptic@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

Well it is a magical place you know

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter how maneuverable a plane is when the human pilot is the limiting factor. UAVs are the future for air combat now.

[–] jimbolauski@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

A human can't handle negative Gs, a computer can. That alone gives uavs a huge maneuver advantage.

[–] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Who needs fight jets when you have advanced missile with targetting system that cannot be fooled by chaff and flares?

[–] VoodooMug@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago

Who needs advanced missiles when you have "Jewish space lasers"!

[–] HorreC@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

man the top of that add on makes me think gundam and now I want them all to have it.

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

gimme some of that sweet sweet protoculture, baby

[–] psud@aussie.zone 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Those mini missile barrages

Then explore the wreckage on a cyclone motorbike

[–] xwolpertinger@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

FAST packs for the win

[–] rosco385@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

6th generation, 7th generation... when will we have the love generation?

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

You forgot the story! Project wingman had me feeling like I just came back from cascadia when I took my headset off.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Project Wingman is the best Ace Combat game

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is it comparable to the H.A.W.X Series? I really liked those but don't have a elaborated controller setup

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Never played H.A.W.X., so I can't offer a comparison. As far as elaborate control setups, I played it on Xbox, and a regular controller was plenty sufficient

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago

Nice, thanks

[–] vormadikter@startrek.website 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] nuke@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago
[–] ooterness@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

@Skua found it on DeviantArt.