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    The indoctrination of windows is extreme. Windows is just as hard as linux, harder even with all the layers of obscurity.

    And yet... linux is hard, and users decry RTFM as "not growing the userbase"

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    One of my main problems with Linux is the obsessive amount of text things have to learn or understand it, I have to sig around online for someone who doesn't say rtfm because the manual is extremely long and it's usually a pretty small easy problem. Or I find someone who has the problem and no response or a response that doesn't work in the current version. It took me a couple of days to setup my home Linux entertainment system because of these reasons.

    Accessibility matters,it's good to have proper documentation and it also good to make it accessible to everyone and not just the hardcore Linux people.

    One of the things I had problems with is with my laptop turning off my external display with the lid was closed, took me a couple of days to find it was in some text file in systemd instead of idk in the power settings?

    Linux is hard and it's not user friendly. But better then Windows for me at least, mainly because Linux has more accessibility options now then windows.

    [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 6 points 4 days ago (4 children)

    Write the kernel like a worm virus so it has self-maintenance and also self-replicates, spreading Linux to every connected machine it can. 🀑

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    [–] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

    Feels like this implies that software is broadly maintained by its general user base when that's simply not how it is outside of really niche projects. Most FOSS software is maintained by a dedicated few who are but a tiny fraction of the user base and are far from being your "average user".

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    [–] heavyboots@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (14 children)

    I mean, this is why I have been using Mac since 1984. It's not hard and it pretty much just gets out of the way and lets you do stuff. (Caveat: Gaming. It really doesn't let you do gaming without jumping through a number of hoops.)

    The fact Time Machine immediately hassles you to set up a drive and back up your stuff is so great for the average user. I'm sure both Linux and (I know) Windows have something similar, but it's not immediately active and trying to get you to save your stuff. TM has saved my bacon numerous times and I love that it's one click and a fresh HD for users to get it set up.

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    [–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

    Windows is just as hard as linux, harder even with all the layers of obscurity.

    With Windows, there is 1 current version of Windows (11), 1 "almost current" (10), 1 "outdated but you'll maybe see it" (8.x) and only a few "you'll probably only see this in obscure situations" versions. Linux has as many "parent" distros/package management systems (apt, rpm, pacman, etc.). This definitely complicates things, as each distro family does things slightly differently.

    And we haven't even touched the window manager/DE choices, of which there are a ton (as opposed to Windows). "Combinatorical explosion" maybe isn't the right phrase, but you get the idea


    Debian with i3wm is wildly different from Fedora Plasma.

    This is all a good thing though, as Linux users tend to like the choice and flexibility


    but it does mean that the "right way" to do something on Linux is very dependent on your particular setup, which isn't the case with Windows.

    (I have used Linux for the last 20+ years, and it's definitely my preferred setup, and am lucky enough that I rarely use Windows for work, and never for personal use.)

    [–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 days ago

    That's why we got together and agreed on one version of Linux to recommend to new adopters.

    Linux VersionOkay, maybe we should have reconsidered when Hannah Montana Linux won the vote...

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