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Enough Musk Spam

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[–] LordGimp@lemm.ee 7 points 8 hours ago

Why does "violent drug addicts with severe mental illness" mean somehow they shouldn't be helped anyways?

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 12 hours ago

Remember, they are saying what would need to be true to justify what they plan to do. This should be read as Elon declaring intent to put homeless people in camps.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 15 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Homeless: without a home.

Weird how he’s lying again. I’ve been there, and I can promise this fuckwit that not having a roof or food in the middle of winter in a city where the stoplights literally freeze is not some kind of illusion. That being prodded away from a public bench in sub-zero temperatures so you can shamble a few blocks whilst the sleep in your eyes freezes, over and over for weeks, so you can’t get more than an hour sleep at a time for months, isn’t the holiday he thinks it is.

Jesus christ, I bob my head to the surface for this? It’s like he’s not even trying to be relatable now.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 19 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

Let's say, for sake of argument, that Elon is correct. Should we not be helping people with severe mental illness?

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I can’t speak for Elon (and will not defend him) but Kyle (from Secular Talk) is dramatically underestimating the problem by tossing out the $20 billion figure. You can’t just throw a bunch of money at a person with severe mental illnesses and addictions and just expect them to be okay.

The state of California has spent over $24 billion on homelessness since 2019 yet the number of homeless people in the state has grown by 20%. Obviously they aren’t spending the money wisely in a manner that would maximize reduction of homelessness, but Kyle didn’t specify how the money should be spent either. Perhaps that’s actually the hard problem: how do you spend the money in the way that would be most effective?

[–] WorldsDumbestMan 3 points 14 hours ago

He is a literal NAZI! So he wants mentaly ill to suffer for losing the gene lottery!

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wild claim, considering Musk is one of the most violent drug addicts who has ever lived.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 5 points 18 hours ago

I wonder what we should call a violent drug addict, convicted of inciting insurrection, living in housing paid for by the public ?

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 7 points 23 hours ago

He is so fucking incoherent from all the ketamine it isn't funny.

[–] adm@lemm.ee 10 points 21 hours ago

You know, even if what he's saying is half true. We HAD systems to help those mentally ill drug addicts and they got gutted. Making them, wait for it, Homeless! you prick.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 16 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Not allowing billionaires to exist would end homelessness

tax the rich!

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

the US in total is a right-wing place that thinks that "hard work" is the way of life, and anybody who doesn't adhere to that is a "drug-addict" or a psychopath.

[–] Gowron_Howard@lemm.ee 14 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Which is wildly ironic because billionaires don’t actually work.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

*working and grifting

where grifting essentially means forcing your subordinates to work harder

[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 4 points 18 hours ago

I'm surprised he chose to express his point in this manner. Unless this is an expression of humanity from Mr Musk that we're so otherwise unaccustomed to that it's hard to recognise, then I assume he wants to persuade people to have less empathy or sympathy for homeless people, not more. This statement, taken at face value would seem to suggest that contrary to what some may think, homeless people are facing significant challenges not of their own making that have contributed directly to their circumstances.

I'm going to guess that's not how he meant it

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 12 points 23 hours ago

Also half of all homeless people are foster kids who aged out of the system. They don't have a family to fall back on.

[–] murmurations@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

One of the talking points in South Africa goes like this:
The "homeless" black people that live in corrugated metal slums all have mansions that were stolen from white people and given to them by the government when apartheid ended.
They choose to live in slums to work in the cities, and go back to their mansions when they're not working. Alternatively, they don't live at their mansions because they are too lazy/dumb to actually take care of the property.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 12 hours ago

Several times in the US I've been told that people flying a sign are actually rich from all the money they are given. Totally absurd but people believe it. Mansions they don't live in is on another level though

[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 3 points 18 hours ago

Hahaha that's gold. It's kind of hard for me to accept anybody really believes that. Feels like some disingenuous conviction there or deliberately not examining the statement because they know on at least one level it's too completely illogical to be true but then again there are some people who've had such serious distortions to their reasoning over time that they're not even lying anymore when they claim to believe this stuff.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 32 points 1 day ago

TIL Elon Musk is homeless.

[–] RaphJ@mamot.fr 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

@Confidant6198
"secular talk" is wrong here.

Musk is an absolute psychopath without any empathy. He doesn't need any excuse to sleep at night knowing all the harm he did to the world.

By destroying USAID, this devil just threw millions of people into starvation.

[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

I'd say destroying USAID is the one good thing they did. Long term mind you. I won't deny the short term effects of such an instant cutoff to these programs.

But USAID is primarily used to disrupt the economic systems of nations that the US exploits for cheap labor.

I'd quote the revolutionary Thomas Sankara

Those who come with wheat, millet, corn or milk, they are not helping us. Those who really want to help us can give us ploughs, tractors, fertilizers, insecticides, watering cans, drills and dams. That is how we would define food aid.

The US primarily uses its food aid to disrupt these nations from being self sustainable and force their industry into a single crop that is most beneficial for US capitalist to export.

So, while the shorterm is bad. The disconnection of these exploitative relationships are good.

Obviously it would be better if these programs were slowly removed. But continuing them for the next 4 years would be worse then ending them drastically.

Also, mind you, I don't think Trump even realizes why these programs exist to benefit the US exploitation of the third world. I think he sees them simply as "foreign aid". So his own ignorance of them actually ends up destroying an important part of US Imperialism by mistake.

Removing the exploitative relationships that the US has with third world countries in the form of "foreign aid" is good. It's just that (1) Trump actually thinks these benefit these nations. Which they do not. And (2) the well intentioned liberals thinks the same as Trump does. So we end up with this weird state where both are wrong but the policy is actually good long term.

Again, there will absolutely be problems as these dependencies are cut of so quickly. But no more than the continued exploitation in the long term would result in.

At Thomas Sankara said. These direct food injections are not helpful. They are a way that capitalist use to direct the economy of third world nations towards dependency on America Imperialism. Ending them is good for these nations. Even if there are struggles when they end.

Self determination and self sustainability have been robbed from these nations by USAID for decades.

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[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip -4 points 12 hours ago

To be fair, that is kinda nonsense. Germany and austria, for example have a lot of support networks for people in need, we even have entire networks dedicated to supporting homeless people, so nobody has to be homeless here - yet we do have a lot of them. For some people, homelessness is almost a choice more than an involuntary decision.

Obviously, idk how this would be in america, but I don't think it would be a lot different.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's amazing that a man who does enough ket to bring down a racehorse even dares to use the phrase "drug addict" as an insult.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Not unusual for addicts to displace blame onto the people around them in order to justify their addictions.

The difference between Musk, Thiel, et al and your average American junkie is simply their line of credit. They can keep taking experimental intoxicants, safe in the knowledge their friends will loan them another $2M the next time they wrap their McLauren around a stop sign.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

Bet Elon he can't beat homelessness with 19 billions.

Bro will do it just to prove you wrong

[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

take it from him

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago

Liquidate Musk

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