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Stumbled across this quick post recently and thought it was a really good tale and worth sharing.


A couple of weeks ago, I saw a tweet asking: "If Linux is so good, why aren't more people using it?" And it's a fair question! It intuitively rings true until you give it a moment's consideration. Linux is even free, so what's stopping mass adoption, if it's actually better? My response:

  • If exercising is so healthy, why don't more people do it?
  • If reading is so educational, why don't more people do it?
  • If junk food is so bad for you, why do so many people eat it?

The world is full of free invitations to self-improvement that are ignored by most people most of the time. Putting it crudely, it's easier to be fat and ignorant in a world of cheap, empty calories than it is to be fit and informed. It's hard to resist the temptation of minimal effort.

And Linux isn't minimal effort. It's an operating system that demands more of you than does the commercial offerings from Microsoft and Apple. Thus, it serves as a dojo for understanding computers better. With a sensei who keeps demanding you figure problems out on your own in order to learn and level up.

Now I totally understand why most computer users aren't interested in an intellectual workout when all they want to do is browse the web or use an app. They're not looking to become a black belt in computing fundamentals.

But programmers are different. Or ought to be different. They're like firefighters. Fitness isn't the purpose of firefighting, but a prerequisite. You're a better firefighter when you have the stamina and strength to carry people out of a burning building on your shoulders than if you do not. So most firefighters work to be fit in order to serve that mission.

That's why I'd love to see more developers take another look at Linux. Such that they may develop better proficiency in the basic katas of the internet. Such that they aren't scared to connect a computer to the internet without the cover of a cloud.

Besides, if you're able to figure out how to setup a modern build pipeline for JavaScript or even correctly configure IAM for AWS, you already have all the stamina you need for the Linux journey. Think about giving it another try. Not because it is easy, but because it is worth it.

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Development led me directly to installing Linux because Windows is bad for dev...

I fell into the warm embrace of KDE and GNOME environments in 2022 and have never looked back.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why don't people use Linux? Fair question. It's because people who don't use Linux are stupid and lazy.

Wow, galaxy brain stuff.

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[–] cortex7979@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago (16 children)

What if I need a program that is only available for windows?

[–] musubibreakfast@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

I'm in the same boat, adobe can get fucked

[–] oo1@lemmings.world 4 points 1 week ago

If such an awful thing ever happpened to me in my personal life I'd change my needs.

In work of course I'm fucked, by stupidity rather than needs of course, but at least that's only for 37.5 hours a week.

[–] Roopappy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
  1. You may not actually need that app. There are many alternatives to Windows-only apps. 95% of the time, I use those. Web apps or Linux native apps.

or 2) you switch back to Windows when you really need that one app. Odds are, over time, you realize it's actually #1.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The app may be windows only, but it can often help to ask for alternative. And not things like "What can I use in Linux that is the same as under Windows". More along the lines of "I need to create or do . In Windoze I used , how do I get the same work done under Linux". Sometimes you don't have much of a choice, go emulation layer or VM, but often you can find a different path to the same result and once you get used to it, it's a better solution.

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[–] DasFaultier@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Sysadmin here. I use Linux a lot on the job and in my homelab, but it's true, I don't wasn't firefighting exercises off the clock. I just want to use my computer. Also, my systems are used by the whole family, and they sure as hell don't want to learn Linux and become IT zealots.

[–] darcranium123@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I've been wanting to switch to Linux for years, but it was always too intimidating for me since I'm not a computer programmer. In the end, it took a roommate who was tech savvy to help install it and answer a few questions. Took about 10 minutes of his time but I still felt like a burden

[–] snroh@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

dhh isn't advocating for linux for everybody per se; instead it's addressed at programmers and similar folk who regard linux as way too complex for everyday use. the background story being that he was an Apple fanboy for the longest time and recently made the switch and now can't shut up about it. as a result they (basecamp) developed some insane rice setup that has to be seen to be believed, it's beyond ridiculous.

as an aside, I've met those people he's talking at and they regularly blow my mind. like, how can you utilize a modern toolchain for practically every possible development scenario using an OS that actively fights you every step of the way, the abomination called WSL notwithstanding...

so the idea is the brogrammers will become the early adopters and by way of trickle-down-tech linux will make its way to normies, same way e.g. Android did.

I don't think that's gonna happen in the foreseeable future. the options, distros, DEs, whatevers are way too fragmented and fragile and are infested with the most deluded, rabid "fans" there are, each and everyone of them mired in truckloads of "no true scottsman" fallacies.

Apple has a vertically integrated tech stack - there is one DE, one WM, one codebase for every product they sell and they are free to focus their sinister efforts elsewhere, backed by the deepest coffers there are.

contrast this with the myriad of distros, package managers, DEs, WMs, etc. each pulling in a different direction, abandoned paths and duplicated efforts galore, done predominantly with no funds to speak of; and if there are any, they are squandered on... what was it, shamans?

no math in this universe is gonna make team #2 catch up to team #1, let alone surpass it.

[–] Sunny@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago

If you have other takes then let's discuss here!

[–] ChonkaLoo@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

good take while I love Linux I must admit it has been quite the struggle sometimes. But everything worthwhile in life takes effort. It's not everybody's cup of tea and I like it that way actually.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

When I told my father, who has been using computers since the MS-DOS days and is by no mean technology-illiterate, that I switched to Linux, his response was "What's Linux?".

I knew it was a lost cause to explain him about privacy, or control and ownership of his own device. He uses Windows 11 and as long as it does what he needs it to do he will never care enough about switching over.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

That's why I'd love to see more developers take another look at Linux. Such that they may develop better proficiency in the basic katas of the internet. Such that they aren't scared to connect a computer to the internet without the cover of a cloud.

I worked at a company building Unix. Later, it built a few releases of a Linux distro too. The people there were proficient documenters and app dev; build, release and support (escalation) devs; and some kernel devs so blindingly smart it made us normies' tired just trying to keep up mentally.

Everyone used windows.

"Whot?!?" Yes, windows. Building Unix - the Unix - and a Linux distro, these super-capable black belts of the OS (borrowing your term) should be in Korn all day long.

Windows. WinAMP. VanDyke. Mozilla.

These people have the skill for it, but their preference was for windows. Because it was bad, but consistently so and presented a unified force to cope around.

I've worked on Linux my entire career, having used Linux since 94. But aside from a short window in 96, I've also done it with windows.

Windows. Spotify. Putty. SeaMonkey.

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