How you liking Voyager? I’m bouncing between Arctic and Thunder atm, one day I’ll find the perfect lemmy client.
Mlem is competent, but isn’t especially good at anything, and lacks some features the others offer
this post was submitted on 21 Apr 2025
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At the moment I use both mlem and voyager. Personally I find that everyday browsing is a nicer experience using mlem, especially since their recent-ish 2.0 update. Though it's missing many of the fancier features that voyager has (eg drafting posts). The user tagging voyager has is super useful too.
After coming from Apollo and Reddit, at first I was just unhappy that the clients were not great. Once I moved past my grief state I realized Voyager was good enough. I’ve stopped re-evaluating (though I’m sure I will again at some point) and just appreciate what I have.
I have not tried other clients. I am quite happy with Voyager, but maybe I will give the others a shot :)
fuck yeah mate
Very good. Next step should be the iPhone
A linux phone is on my list, Jolla or similar. One battle at a time.
I recommed Pixel phones with GrapheneOS or any Lineage OS supporting device. Linux phones are good but I dont personally think they are reliable as smartphone.
Maybe not, but buying them will improve future Linux phones.
Buying a google phone just feels dirty, all this talk about privacy and foss but then still filling Google's pocket is something we need to move away from as privacy/foss enthusiasts.
Actually, you are right. But IMO, only donating is better for Linux phones. Sailfish OS from Jolla has some problems according to people bought the phone. And other companies are not enough now. Its better not to use smartphone nowadays.
I'd wish, but I my country u have official goverment ID apps that you need for taxes and stuff. Banking, work and school all often require phones. Not using a smartphone is just not feasible for many people, so might as well encourage alt phones like Linux
In Türkiye, we have same things too. My solution is to have a phone ONLY for that actions. No any other apps. Happy with it.
Yeh, I’ve got a second hand iPhone at the minute, but swapping shitty big tech for shitty big tech feels stupid.
Yeah, Linux phones might not be ready yet and it will mean compromises and workarounds. Will be following closely the development of not Google not Apple phones, before pulling the trigger.
Apart from GrapheneOS, all other android ROMs are less degoogled than you think, as confirmed by many security researchers. For less techy people the order to degoogle is:
- iOS as OP did
- android with Universal debloater (likely still contains more google than iOS, as LineageOS, e/OS etc.)
- GrapheneOS on Pixel hardware
Yes, Custom ROMs as OOTB may not be enough. But with root privileges, hardening and debloating solutions, it can be better than iPhones and other options. iPhone will be less “Googled” because it is not Google's product, but Android is a Google product. So it is possible to label Android as completely “Googled”. However, if we talk about privacy concerns, there are Google services within Android that we can categorize as core and malicious. We can remove the harmful ones as needed, but the iPhone remains a privacy nightmare no matter how few Google products it has. I don't think the only criterion that defines a secure and private phone is how deGoogled it is. My personal decision is to use any free custom ROM with hardening and debloating.
Apple is a horrible company, for privacy and otherwise, and should be avoided at all costs. And their OS isn't open source, why trust it?
I might be expressed myself wrong. Because of my poor English😅 I mean, the last step to change is the iPhone. To the Android alternatives with custom OS. Especially Google Pixel phones with GrapheneOS.
Ohhh, I didn't notice that's an iPhone. Thanks for the explanation, your English is fine, I'm just a bit silly :3
How ironic that the ultimate degoogling involves buying a Google Pixel phone! I’d rather go Fairphone with LineageOS.
Consider using libretranslate, imo deepl isn’t privacy friendly
DeepL with PWA or browser shortcut is the way for me. LibreTranslate keeps bugging.
Voyager is great but you should give Mlem a shot!
Is there anything particular about Notesnook that Anytype doesn’t offer?
Probably not, but I really like Notesnook for its simplicity and just organize notes in folders. Anytype is awesome for more complex stuff, I usually use it for work, kanban boards and such.
That’s fair, I guess there can be a little extra effort in folder/grouping in Anytype and having certain apps that are built for a purpose à la The Fediverse 😄
or Joplin?
Check out kagi translate
So you start with an iPhone....
Why don't you put an edgy sticker on it?
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