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[–] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 162 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"What could a childcare cost, ten dollars?"

[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 107 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

In Canada, yes.

https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-social-development/news/2025/03/toward-10-a-day-an-early-learning-and-child-care-backgrounder0.htm

As of February 2025, eight provinces and territories are delivering regulated early learning and child care for an average of $10-a-day or less, and all other jurisdictions have reduced parent fees by at least 50%.l

[–] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 50 points 1 day ago

Wow way to rub THAT in XD

Just kidding, I love that for y'all. Every parent should have that (or better!)

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Where is all this daycare money going? My daycare was like 8 ladies that just sat around in a playroom doing arts and crafts with us all day and took us to the pool and library in summer. They could have covered that on 2/3 kids each at 40k a year/kid. They didn't seem to be particularly well off...

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[–] bluesheep@lemm.ee 53 points 1 day ago (3 children)

40k a year? So at least 3200 a month for daycare? Who on gods dying earth can pay for that? That's more than 3 times my rent and my landlord is bleeding me like a stuck pig, what the fuck

[–] PolarKraken@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 day ago (5 children)

People live in way different fuckin worlds man, and the weird part is a lot of us just go through life thinking our "version" is normal. The folks who do this and whose friends do this and whose parents did this - it's normal to them.

I don't think I'm conveying this well. There are whole communities, made up of individual people, for whom this is standard, expected, because it's what they've always been surrounded by, grew up practically breathing it as normal. And for these folks, the reciprocal realization to the one you made, realization that MANY people do not (can not) do this - comes as a similar level of surprise.

It's really fucked up. And it's something deeper and harder to fix than just pointing to one guy or class of people as The Problem (to be clear, that guy and class of people I'm referencing ARE an enormous, hideous problem).

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 9 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

Oh, it's simple ~~easy~~ to fix, just very painful. Nobody wants to fix this because it means dismantling capitalism and bringing those responsible to justice. This is why there is so much support for fascism. They run from the boogeyman they know into the arms of the ones that promise a return to normalcy.

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[–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago

When you have 3+ kids that are young.

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[–] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 96 points 1 day ago (3 children)

y'all understand why they want conservative christians to have a ton of babies, right? the only reason that american conservatives have become as atrocious as they are is that they have the big, dumb numbers. they need another generation of idiots - forcefully uneducated - to continue their legacy of shit.

[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 4 points 16 hours ago

Yes, we're aware. But they can't even do that right. They're still too greedy to properly implement their own plans

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The irony is that these conservatives often can't afford large families without welfare, the exact things Republicans are cutting. Those give a lot more than onetime 5k payments.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

That’s why they’re getting rid of child labor laws. Make them kids earn their way!

[–] Linktank 23 points 1 day ago

They have to ensure that the large families are also poor, thus flooding the armed forces with young people in need of a paycheck with no alternatives.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

and of course to be wage slaves

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 14 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

So that's $5k per month, right? Right?

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

In my country the government decided to give hundreds of euro each month for 6 years to who have a baby (my friend gets €400/month) but SURPRISE! Birth rate didn't increase

[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 16 hours ago

Similarly, I went out to eat and offered them a crisp dollar bill. Surprise! They didn't serve me.

[–] RidderSport@feddit.org 7 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

In Germany it's something like 260€ per month until the child turns 25 if still in education (university, apprenticeship) (26/27 if the child served one or two years as a soldier or in a social or climate project)

And yeah birth rates didn't increase either AFAIK

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[–] Firipu@startrek.website 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Place where I live also gives about the equivalent of 5000 USD for a birth. My wife got a single room in the hospital (very basic public hospital, but not a room with 4 other mothers). The 5k just about covered the medical costs for the pregnancy, birth and the additional cost for the room for 3 days ...

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[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 71 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Like I’d take it if I’m planning on having a baby anyways. But yeah, it’s an absolutely pathetic amount. And childcare is only going to get more expensive with this fucking administration

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 53 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah childcare is gonna be more expensive, but they'll loosen the regulations so that anybody can be a childcare provider, without any background checks or anything, so more people can charge more money. And no vaccine requirement, so more kids can go. It's win/win/win. /s

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[–] Sibshops@lemm.ee 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wonder how much woke stuff we can get for the purpose of making babies.

Mandated paid maternity leave?

Child tax credit?

Maybe some universal medical coverage for the mothers and children?

[–] ickplant@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

What are you, a socialist?

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago

Lmao anyone who thinks this is a lot of money has clearly never raised a child in the recent past. (Let's say 10-15 years? idk)

$5k is gone, like that

[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

After we had our first child we went to some institutions to fill required papers. In the waiting area, there were informational posters everywhere to tell people to not get pregnant too early. One read:

A child costs you 160.000 € until its 18th birthday
[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 16 hours ago

Shithole state Americans: "One hundred sixty dollars? I'll take four!"

[–] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

Thats a very low estimate, although maybe its different in a country with ant semblencr of public healthcare. I've always heard $1,000,000

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[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just use all that stimulus money we got! When was that? Like 2 or 3 times... 5 years ago... Uh. The poor! They're stealing all your money!

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[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Sadly, I could see this convincing people desperate enough for cash...

[–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

That's absolutely what this is for. Uneducated people have more kids; trump lives the uneducated. Those kids grow up to lick their oppressors boot, or end up in the prison system. Either way it's a win for conservatives.

[–] suite403@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Those poor fucking kids.

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[–] multifariace@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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