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Originally this was a reply to this article about a Windows feature called Recall, but there's a good argument the author's concerns resonate far beyond Windows and Meta to proprietary generally.

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[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 19 points 10 hours ago

FUCK YEAH, YEAR OF THE LINUX DESKTOP

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 96 points 15 hours ago (6 children)

It's funny how they're saying "You need to use Linux" and not "You need to get off Facebook". How's Linux going to save you from Facebook spying on you?

[–] ShrimpCurler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I think the be careful what you do on Facebook is implied. He's highlighting something that's less expected, where you may need to be careful what you do on Windows systems.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

They mentioned Microsoft updating privacy agreements at the same time as other companies, and OP mentioned that the context was a discussion of a Windows ultra-keylogger type of feature, the implication is they're in on this shit too, and Linux is a way to not use Windows.

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[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 hours ago
[–] woop_woop@lemmy.world 190 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (9 children)

"im a henchman for a bad guy....and lemme tell you...I think we might be starting to do bad stuff...not sure yet..."

Thanks bud

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately, not everyone has a choice in who they work for in end-stage-capitalism. Work is about survival, not ideology. The majority of Americans are not far-right capitalists, but the vast majority of CEOs are, and it's not really possible to survive long enough to start a small business in most of the US without investment from a far-right capitalist or inheritance (usually also from a far-right capitalist family member).

[–] ArtificialHoldings@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

If you have the skillset and CV to work at Meta, you have a choice to work somewhere slightly lower on the scale of exploitation.

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[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 87 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

At some point we need to start welcoming people to the Light, instead of demonizing them for having been in the Dark. It's pretty difficult for me not to dunk on people as they wake up to the nightmare that they voted for, but a lot them ARE actually otherwise decent folks. Making America Great is going to involve deprogramming a lot of people.

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[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 13 points 13 hours ago

"Are we the baddies?!"

[–] ShrimpCurler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 16 hours ago

People gotta earn money to survive, I don't blame the employees for this. And this is not just a case of Meta's privacy being bad. This is close government involvement with potentially serious impacts and implications across all US based platforms.

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[–] youngalfred@lemm.ee 73 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

That first comma is a bit out of place - 'why won't you just try, Linux?'
'seriously Linux, just try your vegetables'.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

It can't. Its just a kernel. Maybe with the right gnu core utils...

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 10 hours ago

Or maybe with busybox :3 (I use Alpine)

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[–] upstroke4448@lemmy.dbzer0.com 69 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

Its a bit odd to see an employee of a company that has always had a terrible privacy policy now be suddenly alarmed.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 55 points 18 hours ago (8 children)

Things have changed. Before, the worst Facebook could do to its critics was ban them and those that they knew. Now Facebook can have ICE turnover your house without a warrant for a troll post. A private company is now working to suppress a specific kind of conversation that questions the judgement and actions of those in power. It's a subtle but very dangerous difference in why a bad EULA may not have previously caused concern but the new one is.

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[–] irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 hours ago

See the context mentioned by OP. It was a reply to a post about Recall on Windows.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 37 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (7 children)

imagine how great it feels to say this for like 10-15 years while getting dismissed as a conspiracy nut.

and then having it happen exactly as you said it would.

[–] randamumaki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 16 hours ago

It's called the Cassandra Complex, named after Cassandra/Kassandra of Troy.

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 37 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

Switching from Windows to Linux isn't going to block them from monitoring your use of online services. Facebook doesn't even do anything in the OS space.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 42 points 18 hours ago

I think what they are getting at is that Meta does this and they find it likely Microsoft might be doing something similar.

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[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 36 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I've done OSINT research and that alone converted me into a privacy advocate. Seeing how Alphabet, Meta, and MS have allowed creep to get training data... Whew. It's breathtaking and complicated beyond the ability to explain in 114 characters.

Y'all, we are cooked. Currently. Present tense. If you aren't freaked out already, you're missing about 85% of reality.

[–] Charlxmagne@lemmy.world 11 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah OSINT existing is proof that no backdoor is secure, not even mentioning what you can buy from data brokers, something authorities wouldn't need warrants for.

[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 2 points 8 hours ago

Well, to be fair it's also proof that people do not value privacy, and that the means by which actual privacy can be obtained are few and narrow.

It also really drives home the fact that our systems of IDs, licensure, taxes, property purchase, etc. are designed for an analog 20th century world. We need new systems based on modern technology, bit not in a way that simply contracts out to the very companies that put us here.

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