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I am trying to use my old laptops for self-hosting. One has a 6th gen Intel Core i3 (4GB ram), the other has an 11th gen Intel Core i5 (8GB ram). I have previously tried both ubuntu server and desktop but couldn't get it to work well. For the former I found it difficult to remote ssh and the latter I had difficulty installing Docker containers. (I'm not very good with the command line)

I would like to find an OS that is easier to setup with less of a neccesity for the command line (I would still like to learn how to use it though, I don't want to get rid of it entirely!). I've heard of CasaOS, is that a good option? It seems quite easy to use. What about other alternatives?

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[–] q7mJI7tk1@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

For what it's worth given the age of this thread and disagreement going on in it, I would recommend Unraid.

Easy for a beginner, with enough to take you up to intermediate level: a web GUI for pretty much all the required terminal commands. It's been around for years, is not going away, but instead getting updated. Works on any old eBay hardware and most of all, the community there are very supportive of beginners. There's also lots of YouTube tutorials.

It ticks all the boxes for easy self hosting. It's just not for Linux protocol purists.

EDIT: I'm learning a lot from this thread, and it's interesting to see how tolerant people are for self hosting. I would add in my vote for Unraid: it allows me to be dynamic with the time I have for self hosting. I'm sometimes extremely busy and don't have the time to keep my self hosting updated, so the web GUI is essential for basic maintenance. Then there are times when I do want to waste an afternoon trying something in terminal and learning more, and that's when Unraid again comes to the rescue. I couldn't self host with 100% terminal, and neither would I want to with 100% GUI. The best self hosting platform is one that can mix them up efficiently and effectively. I am keen to try some others mentioned here, as some look quite interesting. However NAS is a massive element of what I need for my homelab, so Unraid will stay for now.

[–] scheep@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I ended up installing Debian since Yunohost can't install and my old laptop doesn't meet the hardware requirements of TrueNAS Scale

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

By the way, you can still run the Yunohost installer ontop of your Debian install... If you want to... It's Debian-based anyway so it doesn't really matter if you use its own install media or use the script on an existing Debian install. Though I feel like adding: If you're looking for Docker... Yunohost might not be your best choice. It's made to take control itself and it doesn't use containers. Of course you can circumvent that and add Docker containers nonetheless... But that isn't really the point and you'd end up dealing with the underlying Debian and just making it more complicated.

It is a very good solution if you don't want to deal with the CLI. But it stops being useful once you want too much customization, or unpackaged apps. At least that's my experience. But that's kind of always the case. Simpler and more things automatically and pre-configured, means less customizability (or more effort to actually customize it).

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[–] testman@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago

YUNOHost iso is basically just Debian, but the one-click-install for various self-hosted things is it's primary purpose. All done through web interface.

[–] glitching@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

don't go with server variants of the OS. they are intended for boxes that work without display and keyboard, which you have. instead, install any normal distro you're familiar with. it's infinitely easier to fix something with the full GUI at your disposal.

this is just your first install, you will iterate, and through that process you'll get better and leaner, in terms of underlying OS. think of it as training wheels on a bike, you'll pull them off eventually.

wired connection only, leave wireless turned off, and assign it a static IP address.

don't do containerS, do one container first. figure out where you're gonna store the compose files, where it will store data, how you will back that data up, etc. then add another. does it fit into your setup? do you need to modify something? rinse. repeat.

casaOS, aside from it's murky background (some chinese startup or sumsuch, forgot?) doesn't provide that path forward nor allows you to learn something, too much hand holding.

good luck.

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[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I would recommend trying out Cockpit (Github) and Portainer (Github).
Cockpit gives you a WebUI for Linux and Portainer gives you a WebUI for Docker.
Personally I usually run Debian Stable for servers, but choice of distro matters little if you run stuff as Docker containers.

[–] scheep@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (7 children)

thanks! Maybe I could check out cockpit and portainer too...

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[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

YUNOhost is designed for this. You can do almost everything graphically via the webadmin. Mine has been running for a couple of years and I'm very happy with it. I have email, XMPP (both of which were installed out of the box), a website, file sharing and a few other things. There are a tonne of apps available, including Fediverse instances, Nextcloud. It's a very cool thing to have available for making self-hosting more accessible.

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[–] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You can install some Linux distro and then install a docker management web UI like coolify. Requires little terminal knowledge. Though you should learn the terminal.

Try the Fedora Server distro, afaik it should come with Cockpit installed: https://fedoraproject.org/server/

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago (18 children)

Keep in mind the reason why people generally dont run desktop environments on a server is because unessential software uses more resources and increases the chance of a system crash. I would highly reccomend learning how to use a terminal and installing fish (shell) is a great place to start.

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[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I believe all of these are actually just running Debian as the actual OS underneath, but they give you a webui that makes deploying apps easier.

Of these three, I like the look of Cosmos the most. Seems to be security focused and comes with a reverse proxy and a built in SSO solutions. That’s something that’s usually a pain in the ass to set up yourself.

There’s technically that stupid ass LTT OS but I’m purposely leaving that one out.

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[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I am very much a Windows user and my journey went like this:
Raspberry Pi with OMV -> SSH on OMV -> Mostly Terminal on OMV -> Docker + Portainer to deploy containers -> Transition to docker-compose -> Setup my own VM with Debian completely in the CLI (excluding the first setup of the VM)

I use Linux (primarily Debian because of Raspberry as I don't like what I hear about Ubuntu) primarily for VMs and servers and Windows as the client OS

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[–] mhz@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe you might find home in one of those NAS ootimized distros like Openmediavault, truenas, unraid. If not CasaOS or old good Debian with portainer.

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[–] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I guess you could install cockpit (via Terminal, sorry, but it's pretty straightforward and there are good guides). After that, you could use the cockpit web interface to deploy docker/podman containers. It's a bit clunky sometimes, but it does the job purely in UI.

You can also manage updates, backups, etc via cockpit if you install the required modules.

As base, I'd use any stable Linux distro that's reccomended for server use.

[–] techognito@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

https://cockpit-project.org/

for more info for those interested

[–] couch1potato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

I was in the same spot about 3 years ago and I started with Unraid. Got me into docker and dipping my toes into command line stuff.

Honestly though you're going to quickly outgrow your old laptops...

[–] WQMan@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I personally use Debian. For your case, you can install lightweight desktop environments such as XFCE.

Honestly from my point of view after reading your post, you don't have a terminal or operating system issue, it feels like you are new to self-hosting and don't know how to start configuring from scratch.

Ideally you want to look for documentations or keep asking for online help. For example, with installing docker, you would want to refer to this: https://docs.docker.com/engine/install/. Welcome to system admin life, where you spend more time reading/understanding than configuring.

Personally, you can even use AI Chatbot to help you with stuff, just be specific on the system you are on, the goal you are trying to achieve and the problem you are tring to solve.


Which brings me to answer your next point about CasaOS: It exists so that you can skip most of the 'system admin life' step. It skips almost all the setup you would have needed to do on a fresh machine, and just leaves configurations. The downside is usually it eats up more resources than a self-configured install since it comes with redundant features you are unlikely to use.

TLDR; Pre-configured OS such as CasaOS is a solid choice if you just want to set it up and be done with it. If you are here to really learn about system admin stuff, then pick any of the Linux Operating system (Debian-derivatives recommended) with a lightweight DE.

Happy self hosting :v

[–] scheep@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Okay, so CasaOS is easier to set up (but uses more resources and I won't learn sysadmin stuff) whereas using something like Debian is a bit harder to set up (but uses less resources and learn more!).

Think I might try CasaOS on my 11th gen laptop and plain Debian on my 6th gen laptop and see which I prefer

[–] AustralianSimon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Mint or Ubuntu is like Windows but better.

[–] N0x0n@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hey :) I'm not giving you any recommendations but want to give you my personal experience !

5 years ago I had absolutely no clue about Linux/CLI/networking/docker... You name it ! And I also wanted to repurposed and old laptop as a server.

The first distro I installed on my server was Debian ! Why? Because I remembered my brother said something along the line: "Every server infrastructure is run by Debian or a Debian derivative". So this sounded like the perfect thing to install as a server distro :) !

5 years later I'm still running Debian on this old laptop and it's going strong ! Never did it failed me except if I did something wrong over the CLI !

As you guessed it, you will need some degree of proficiency on the command line specially if you install your distro without a graphical user interface, which I would recommend... Yes, the CLI isn't easy to beginning with and you will do some mistakes that will need a full reinstall of your system... But before you learn to move, you learn to stay up right on your legs and this involves a lot a failing !!

It's not mandatory, you can install a lightweight GUI and take your time. There are a lot of application with good UI which will help you out ! However, not once did I regret to take the harder route and learned so many things along the way ! After this amount of time in the CLI, I can say I'm getting quite good In navigating my system, keeping it healthy and alive :p !

Okay, If it's a matter of time I get it ! We only have 24h a day and most of this time is already spend at work/school, family time, friends, sleep, eat ! If you're lucky enough to have 2 hours to spare to tinker arround, a UI is a good idea to keep a healthy balance between all your personal activities ! But keep in mind, both are thorny and have their fair share of issues and debug time.

Last words, have fun with your system :)

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[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago

If you are mostly hosting files, open media vault has minimal command line, and it's mostly administered through a web admin. It's still fairly complex however, and I definitely recommend reading the manual thoroughly and sticking with easy tasks at first. https://www.openmediavault.org/

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

Just from the handful of OSs I've tried, I'd suggest Ubuntu desktop again.

As for docker, I'd say to get docker and docker compose setup. Once you're running in docker compose, adding machines is often as simple as editing some markup in a text editor.

But my final suggestion is to crawl before you walk before you run. Start slow in the terminal. Instead of using your file explorer, navigate directories using the terminal and then open the directory you need into the file explorer using the terminal.

Want a new file? Use touch. Want a new directory? Use mkdir. Eventually, it'll become annoying to open a file from your explorer when you could just open it from the terminal. Then, you'll get annoyed with text editors and want to reduce your context switches by using vim.

Also, --help is your best friend when trying to figure out commands. You got this! Feel free to send me a message if you wanna chat and have any questions when you're ready to start dipping your toes. I'm far from an expert, but I've made some progress of my own and eventually we might learn a thing or two together.

[–] dave@lemmy.wtf 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

i tried CasaOS for a quick minute. its decent and just has the basics like setting up any disks and then has an app store. its really just a front end for docker and you can manually input the details of any docker containers that arent in the store

ive mostly been running docker stuff on my Synology nas. cant think of the model number now, 218+ i think, but any of the "plus" models will let you run docker. its very similar to Casa, no messing around with command line stuff. ive been self hosting for 10 years now and never touched the command line so i dont know what people are on about here saying you will have trouble

dietpi is another thing ive used on a few devices, mainly small SBCs and raspberry pi's, but i think they might have a version that you can install on anything. its basically just debian, and it has a sort of a wizard that helps set up various things like set up disks and install apps. its headless though so no GUI unless you install one, and the wizard is run from the terminal but youre not having to type any commands at least

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

I honestly would use a headless Linux system with docker compose. You can find premade docker compose files.

[–] Hawk@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I'm not trying to be unhelpful. My advice would be to steer into the terminal. Bite the bullet. I use arch and alpine for my servers but Fedora would be fine (but SELinux can be a pain with bund mounts)

Probably just go with Fedora with btrfs for snaps. It has lots of support and is a common choice for servers

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[–] ijhoo@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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